========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:10:08 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Madelyn Miller Subject: Nacho's going to Yale? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Greetings all, Anyone going to the 17th Annual College and University Hazardous Waste Conference at Yale? Madelyn ---------------------- Madelyn Miller Director & Chemical Hygiene Officer Environmental Health & Safety Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:39:06 -0600 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Linda S. Perez-Saldana" Subject: Re: Laboratory Relocation Checklist Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Dear List Members: > >Was wondering if any of you have developed a checklist to be used when >relocating laboratories. Due to an upcoming renovation, all of our >chemistry/biochemistry labs will be relocating to other parts of the same >building. Specifically what I'm looking for is a checklist that covers the >proper transport of chemicals (i.e.-segregation of incompatibles, carts >with secondary containment, rubber safety carriers for acids, ppe, etc.) as >well as proper storage and disposal considerations. > >My intention is to distribute this checklist to all laboratory supervisors >for them to complete prior to moving any chemicals. It is my hope that >this will prevent me from having to personally meet with supervisors to >discuss these issues. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. > I don't know about everyone else on the list, but I would sure appreciate seeing your results when you get them all compiled. Good luck. Linda \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Linda S. Perez-Saldana NAOSMM member #991 since 1994 Coordinator Ask Me! New Mexico State University Biology Department (505)646-3915 Box 30001 MSC 3AF (505)382-6547 pager Foster Hall Room 130 (505)646-5665 fax Las Cruces, NM 88003 liperez@nmsu.edu ***** http://pc-biology.nmsu.edu/linda/coordina.htm ***** /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:32:30 -0500 Reply-To: swihart@purdue.edu Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: LA Swihart Organization: Purdue University Subject: 13 carcinogens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-UNICODE-2-0-UTF-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NACHOS - Do the "13 carcinogens" (29 CFR 1910.1003) have action levels and/or PELs and if so where are they found? It looks like there used to be an individual standard for each carcinogen (1003 - 1004 and 1006 - 1017), but now 1003 includes all 13 of them and the 1004 and 1006 - 1017 all simply say "see 1003." I can't find PELs given in 1910.1003. And in the Z tables no help either. Z-1 refers me to individual standards 1003, 1004 and 1006 - 1017 (which, with the exception of 1003, all say "see 1003," which does not give PELs!) And if they don't have PELs, then what? The 1910.1003 standard does not appear to specifically exempt itself from the Lab Standard "supersede clause," and does not seem to contain any "prohibition of eye and skin contact." Lots of washing mentioned, but not a "prohibition." I am therefore left to suppose that the whole thing (1910.1003) is superseded? Help! THANKS, Linda ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:59:43 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Teresa Robertson Organization: CSU Bakersfield Subject: Re: 13 carcinogens Comments: To: swihart@purdue.edu Comments: cc: trobertson@csubak.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit swihart@purdue.edu,.internet writes: >NACHOS - >Do the "13 carcinogens" (29 CFR 1910.1003) have action levels and/or >PELs and if so where are they found? from The NIOSH Pocket Guide to Chemical Hazards (on-line) http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npg/nengapdx.html#a APPENDIX B THIRTEEN OSHA-REGULATED CARCINOGENS Without establishing PELs, OSHA promulgated standards in 1974 to regulate the industrial use of 13 chemicals identified as potential occupational carcinogens. 2-acetylaminofluorene 4-aminodiphenyl benzidine bis-chloromethyl ether 3,3'-dichlorobenzidine 4-dimethylaminoazobenzene ethyleneimine methyl chloromethyl ether alpha-naphthylamine beta-naphthylamine 4-nitrobiphenyl N-nitrosodimethylamine beta-propiolactone Exposures of workers to these 13 chemicals are to be controlled through the required use of engineering controls, work practices, and personal protective equipment, including respirators. See 29 CFR 1910.1003-1910.1016 for specific details of these requirements. Respirator selections in the Pocket Guide are based on NIOSH policy, which considers the 13 chemicals to be potential occupational carcinogens. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:19:37 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Gordon Miller Subject: Re: 13 carcinogens In-Reply-To: <37A5D62E.992441AB@purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" There is a TLV for 2-propiolactone, 0.5 ppm, based on irritation. ACGIH rates it an A3 carcinogen ("confirmed animal carcinogen with unknown relevance to humans"). Its rated as one of the materials "Reasonably Anticipated To Be Human Carcinogens" by NTP and 2B a carcinogen, possibly carcinogenic to humans, by IARC. There are no airborne concentration limits for the other carcinogens in this group that I am aware of. I ran a check on these compounds this past Spring to update our regulated carcinogens list. The original set of carcinogen standards, consolidated as 29 CFR 1910.1003, was a political exercise by OSHA to show what it could do back in the early 70s. OSHA did not propose limits - they developed a crude set of precautions that would tend to minimize exposures. One standard, that for 4,4'-methylene bis (2-chloroaniline) also known as MBOCA and trade-named as MOCA, was struck down in court about the time when Eohippus evolved into modern horses so it is not covered by 1910.1003. Gordon Miller, CIH miller22@llnl.gov -------------------- >NACHOS - > >Do the "13 carcinogens" (29 CFR 1910.1003) have action levels and/or >PELs and if so where are they found? > >It looks like there used to be an individual standard for each >carcinogen (1003 - 1004 and 1006 - 1017), but now 1003 includes all 13 >of them and the 1004 and 1006 - 1017 all simply say "see 1003." > >I can't find PELs given in 1910.1003. And in the Z tables no help >either. Z-1 refers me to individual standards 1003, 1004 and 1006 - >1017 (which, with the exception of 1003, all say "see 1003," which does >not give PELs!) > >And if they don't have PELs, then what? The 1910.1003 standard does not >appear to specifically exempt itself from the Lab Standard "supersede >clause," and does not seem to contain any "prohibition of eye and skin >contact." Lots of washing mentioned, but not a "prohibition." I am >therefore left to suppose that the whole thing (1910.1003) is >superseded? > >Help! >THANKS, >Linda ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:54:28 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Donald E. Clark, Ph.D." Subject: Re: Chemical Safety/Hazards Web Sites In-Reply-To: <000601bed836$650f7ce0$1502a8c0@julie.pcrinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I found an interesting paper on the toxicity of smoke from various materials at http://xp20.ashrae.org/journal/feat-mar.htm Hope this helps. Would appreciate cy of your talk when available. Good luck. dec At 09:46 AM 7/27/99 -0400, you wrote: >I'm looking for interesting web sites for chemical safety and chemical >hazards. (Debbie, we already included yours.) > >It's for a talk about the chemistry of hazardous materials for Firefighters. >Any excellent web sites with MSDS would also be helpful (already have >Aldrich, Vermont SIRI, Utah) > >Julie O'BrienJulie O'Brien >Archimica (Florida) >and >EXPO The Children's Museum of Gainesville >afn35210@afn.org > > Donald E. Clark, PhD Chemical and Biological Safety Officer Environmental Health and Safety Department Texas A&M University College Station, TX 77843-4472 Phone (409)845-2132 FAX (409)845-1348 E-mail declark-sh@tamu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:58:47 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Janeen LaPierre Subject: HIV Drugs and Chemical Interactions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Howdy All. Have any of you run into the situation of advising an HIV positive individual who is currently being treated with the prescribed drug regimen about possible interactions with chemicals they are exposed to in a lab setting. The chemicals in question are formaldehyde and phenol which make up embalming fluid. The balance of the fluid is methanol and water. Every year at the start of Gross Anatomy lab we run into many issues in lab. This is a first for me. Any information or sources would be greatly appreciated. Oh, and did I mention I need to get something together by noon tomorrow? Don't ya love this stuff? Thanks, Janeen. :):):):):):):):):):):):) Janeen Lapierre, CHO College of Osteopathic Medicine University of New England 11 Hills Beach Road Biddeford, ME 04005 E-Mail: JLaPierre@MAILBOX.UNE.EDU Phone: (207) 283-0170 ext 2446 Opinions are mine and not those of UNE. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:44:05 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Nick Pinizzotto Subject: Composite Rotors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, Have any of you come into contact with the new carbon fibre( new to me at least) composite rotors "KompSpin"? Just curious to hear pros and cons from anyone who cares to put there 2 cents in. Nick Pinizzotto Environmental Health Officer Dept. Environmental Health & Safety Thomas Jefferson University nick.pinizzotto@mail.tju.edu 215-503-5853 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:46:28 -0400 Reply-To: foglein@rowan.edu Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Jonathan Foglein Organization: Rowan University Subject: X-Ray Radiation and Personnel Monitoring Comments: To: SAFETY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings all! First, let me apologize for any duplicate messages you may receive, as I am posting this to two lists. Second, I have search both of these list's archives to no avail. We have just finished the installation of an x-ray diffractometer. (Being the CHO also requires that I am the RSO by default, so I have much to learn!) I am uncertain with how to proceed with personnel monitoring. Thus far, we are planning to monitor just outside the exposure, as well as provide monitoring for myself (I must train others and perform repairs within my capabilities), professors and undergraduate students performing research. In addition, we wish to instruct 3 classes of students (10-16 per class) on the use of the instrument. My question is: Must I provide personnel monitoring to each student (appox. annual cost of $1000!), or can I call them "visitors" and provide one badge to each group? New Jersey's Radiation Protection Program provides no specific details on the use of personnel monitoring equipment. How is personnel monitoring handled at your institution, keeping in mind that we are a small public institution and that this is our first functional x-ray instrument since my arrival 3 years ago? Any thoughts or advice should be sent directly to me and I will post a summary to both lists. Thank you in advance. -- God Bless! Jonathan Foglein *** NOTE NEW AREA CODE: 856 *** Instrument Coordinator / Chemical Hygiene Officer Department of Chemistry & Physics Rowan University 201 Mullica Hill Road Glassboro, NJ 08028 Phone: 856-256-4500 x3578 Fax: 856-256-4921 foglein@rowan.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:33:09 +0000 Reply-To: ksimpson@csu.edu.au Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Ken Simpson Subject: Dilute Ethidium Bromide waste MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Dear All, I am seeking advice from the list on any suitable methods to reduce the volume or toxicity of Ethidium Bromide wastes. We have accumulated 20L of <0.5mg/L Ethidium Bromide. Any help greatly appreciated. Kind regards Ken ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ken Simpson Laboratory Manager School of Biomedical Sciences Charles Sturt University - Riverina PO Box 588 Wagga Wagga NSW Australia 2678 Telephone 02 69 334032 International ph + 61 269 334032 Facsimile 02 69 332587 fax + 61 269 332587 Email ksimpson@csu.edu.au School of Biomedical Sciences Homepage http://www.csu.edu.au/faculty/health/biomed/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:09:59 +0000 Reply-To: ksimpson@csu.edu.au Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Ken Simpson Subject: Ethidium Bromide (dilute) wastes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Dear All, I am seeking advice from the list on any suitable methods to reduce the volume or toxicity of Ethidium Bromide wastes. We have accumulated 20L of <0.5mg/L Ethidium Bromide. Any help greatly appreciated. Kind regards Ken ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ken Simpson Laboratory Manager School of Biomedical Sciences Charles Sturt University - Riverina PO Box 588 Wagga Wagga NSW Australia 2678 Telephone 02 69 334032 International ph + 61 269 334032 Facsimile 02 69 332587 fax + 61 269 332587 Email ksimpson@csu.edu.au School of Biomedical Sciences Homepage http://www.csu.edu.au/faculty/health/biomed/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:06:15 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Swiki Anderson Subject: For Individual Concerned and Interested with IAQ and Ventilation Improvements in the Work Place Comments: cc: "TCudal@SDGE.com" ENGINEERED SYSTEMS Online now at: http://www.esmagazine.com/exclusive.htm Lessons learned from the "old saints" Concerns about proper laboratory air flow and ventilation systems, including fume hood performance, and the significant advances made concerning user safety, traces back to work done in the early 1940s in Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) labs. Lessons learned here are worth reexamining. SYMPOSIUM being sponsored by the San Diego AIHA Local Section with information online with information online at http://www.sdaiha.org/ entitled: Indoor Air Quality, Fungi Health Effects, and Laboratory Air Control Systems August 25, San Diego Yacht Club Concerns ventilation health hazards and how to identify, correct and deal with them Beneficial lessons and information gained might make this worth of attendance. contact: Ted Cudal Industrial Hygienist, M.S., MBA, CSP, CHMM, CHCM SDG&E Safety, Health & Emergency Services - CP31A (619) 650-400 email:TCudal@SDGE.com from: Swiki A. Anderson, Ph.D., P.E. Office: Swiki Anderson and Associates, Inc. 1516 Shiloh Ave., Bryan, TX 77803 v. 409.779-6068, x11; f -6085; 800.949-1996 website: http://saai-svc.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:30:59 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Madelyn Miller Subject: Re: HIV Drugs and Chemical Interactions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Greetings, Wow, that a good one. I think I would call the poison control center. We have an excellent one here in Pittsburgh, (actually originated here). If you want to call the one in P'burgh here is the number. 412-692-5600. Dr. Edward Krenzlok is the director. ( PhD in pharmacology) Pittsburgh Poison Control Center should be able to help you . If they can't ask for Ed. Madelyn On Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:58:47 -0400 Janeen LaPierre wrote: > Howdy All. > > Have any of you run into the situation of advising an HIV positive individual who is currently being treated with the prescribed drug regimen about possible interactions with chemicals they are exposed to in a lab setting. The chemicals in question are formaldehyde and phenol which make up embalming fluid. The balance of the fluid is methanol and water. > > Every year at the start of Gross Anatomy lab we run into many issues in lab. This is a first for me. Any information or sources would be greatly appreciated. Oh, and did I mention I need to get something together by noon tomorrow? Don't ya love this stuff? > > Thanks, Janeen. > > :):):):):):):):):):):):) > Janeen Lapierre, CHO > College of Osteopathic Medicine > University of New England > 11 Hills Beach Road > Biddeford, ME 04005 > > E-Mail: JLaPierre@MAILBOX.UNE.EDU > Phone: (207) 283-0170 ext 2446 > Opinions are mine and not those of UNE. ---------------------- Madelyn Miller Director & Chemical Hygiene Officer Environmental Health & Safety Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:34:01 +1200 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Maureen McCloy Organization: Lincoln University Subject: Ethidium bromide Comments: To: ksimpson@csu.edu.au In-Reply-To: <199908050500.AAA21658@saluki-mail.siu.edu> Hi Ken We've had similar concerns here - I'm having difficulty convincing some (but not all) of our Molecular Bios that ethidium bromide is even hazardous! Anyway, my Hazardous Laboratory Chemicals Disposal Guide (Armour 1996 2nd ed) says: In very dilute aqueous solutions it can be converted to the physiologically inactive product, 2-carboxybenzophenone with chlorine bleach. Wear gloves, lab-coat and goggles and work in the fume cupboard. To a solution of 34mg ethidium bromide in 100mL of water, add 300mL of household chlorine bleach, stir at room temperature for two hours. Wash down the drain with water. We have traditionally used the fabled "tea-bag" carbon absorption treatment but have moved to the bleach method recently and it seems to be working well. Maureen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Maureen McCloy Health and Safety Co-ordinator PO Box 94 Lincoln University Canterbury New Zealand Phone (03) 3252 811 ext 8238 Fax (03) 3253 607 Mobile 021 255 1990 Email mccloy@lincoln.ac.nz ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:45:11 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Ross Williams Subject: Re: Ethidium bromide MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Prudent Practices in the Laboratory: Handling and Disposal of Chemicals" (the National Research Council (US) publication) has information on the hazards of handling of Ethidium Bromide. Some of this information can be found on the Howard Hughes Medical Institutes web site: http://www.hhmi.org/science/labsafe. In general, dilute solutions can be handled either by chemical destruction or by absorption. A. Chemical methods have been tried, but some do not work well in reducing Ames positive material. - Nitrous acid deamination (done in a fume hood) leads to a 200 X reduction in Ames positive material. [N.B. This does not work in Tris buffers]. - Permanganate oxidation (done in a fume hood) leads to a 3000 X reduction in Ames positive material but results in the production of permanganate by-products. - Bleach oxidation (done in a fume hood) has been tried with varied results [Lunn and Sansone found a possible 5 X reduction in Ames positive material] B. Ion exchange or Charcoal Traps Homemade units can be made, ie. columns or "tea-bags". Commercial traps are available from Schleicher-Schuell, Clontech, Bio 101, and Naiad Technologies, amongst others. The traps have a capacity limit, usually around 20 L of a 0.5 µg/L solution. In each case, the trap's effluent should be monitored to ensure trapping effectiveness. After use, the traps are handled as hazardous waste. Full destruction can be by high temperature incineration. References: 1. " Molecular Cloning, A Laboratory Manual", Maniatis, 2nd edition, CSH Press, has recipes and guidance [pages 1.49/50 in vol. 1 and E.8/9 in vol 3]. 2. Lunn and Sansone, Anal. Biochem.(1987) 162, 453; P. Quillardet and M. Hofnung, Trends in Genetics (1988), 4, 89.; O. Bensaude, Trends in Genetics, (1988) 4(4), 89]. Other sources of information: The Environmental Health and Safety web-sites of several North American universities have extensive, and some times conflicting, instructions for the handling of ethidium bromide posted in their web-site manuals. Maureen McCloy wrote: > Hi Ken > We've had similar concerns here - I'm having difficulty convincing > some (but not all) of our Molecular Bios that ethidium bromide is > even hazardous! Anyway, my Hazardous Laboratory Chemicals > Disposal Guide (Armour 1996 2nd ed) says: > > I -- *********************************************** * Dr. R. E. 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 Position Announcement

 Industrial Hygiene Coordinator
 Department of Environmental Safety
 University of Maryland, College Park
 Job Study No. AS-5845


The University of Maryland, College Park, Department of Environmental Safety, is charged with the management of environmental and safety hazards for the seventh-largest campus of higher education in the United States.  The College Park campus has a population of approximately 55,000 faculty, staff and students, with 8.5 million square feet of floor space contained within 230 major academic and residential buildings.  The University of Maryland, College Park is the flagship campus of the University of Maryland System.  The College Park campus maintains an active educational, research, cultural, social and athletic environment and is located in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. within 8 miles of the United States Capitol.

The Industrial Hygiene Coordinator reports to the Manager of Industrial Hygiene, and is responsible for the development and administration of occupational safety and health programs including Hazard Communication, Indoor Air/Water Quality, Hearing Conservation, Exposure Monitoring, Chemical Hygiene, Asbestos/Lead Management, Respiratory Protection and Laboratory Safety.

The successful applicant will have a B.A. or B.S. in an engineering or science discipline, with a minimum of 7 years of increasing responsibility in administration and management of occupational safety & health programs.  Relevant professional certification (CIH) is preferred but not immediately necessary for this position.  Ability to communicate effectively orally and in writing, to apply necessary information technology skills, and to work as a member of a safety, health and environmental management team is required.  Salary is commensurate with experience.

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========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:53:56 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Nick Spare Subject: MnO2 disposal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To CHO's in CA We recently had a minor lab accident in which ~ 300 g of KMnO4 in water was spilled. We followed Margaret-Ann Armor's directions for spillage disposal resulting in a 5-gal bucket full of paper towels, MnO2 and neutralized solution. The last two sentences in the disposal recipe read "Decant the liquid into the drain with at least 50 times its volume of water. Solid residue may be discarded with normal refuse." Any comments about the viability of such instructions for this mixture in California? Nick Spare Pilot Chemical Co. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:29:57 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Fran Martin Subject: Searchable NIOSH Pocket Guide CD-ROM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" FYI, The NIOSH Pocket Guide (NPG) and Document Collection is now available in searchable electronic format on CD-ROM. It contains detailed chemical hazard information from the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) on more than 670 chemicals, as well as over 250 MB of supplemental safety information: NIOSH Manual of Analytical Methods, International Chemical Safety Cards, and various other publications. See http://www.env-sol.com/solutions/NIOSH.HTML for details. Fran Martin FM Research & Consulting fmartin@ccsinc.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:26:19 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Jeff Rubin Subject: Compressed-gas storage Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Good day, A few questions about compressed-gas cylinders - looking for what other folks do: 1) Is there a generally recognized standard for maximum contents of a compressed-as cylinder marked "empty?" 2) Do people have different standards for storage of empty cylinders than they do for full ones? For example, would people be willing to have empty CO cylinders stored in "public areas?" If not CO, how about N2 or CO2? 3) When cylinders fr research are delivered, do they go straight to the labs or is there a general delivery area? If the latter, is this area indoors or outdoors? If indoors, does the area have any special protective features (sprinklers, ventilation)? To help narrow the scope of answers, here's what we do now: - Flammable, reactive, poisonous gas-cylinders go into sprinklered, vented gas cabinets (not all of 'em yet, but we're getting there, and all poisonous gases are ventilated in some manner) - All cylinders, regardless of type or amount of contents, must be secured - Cylinders not in use should be capped - Cylinders should not be emptied below 25 psi, although most everyone here uses at least 50 psi as a minimum - Cylinders not in use are tagged "empty" or "full" as appropriate; we try to separate the two from each other - We generally allow "empties" to be stored outside labs for pickup Thanks for your assistance. JNR Jeff Rubin, Asst. Dean for EHS College of Natural Sciences G2500 W.C. Hogg Building University of Texas at Austin Austin, TX 78712-1199 (512) 471-6176 (O) (512) 471-4998 (F) jrubin@mail.utexas.edu http://www.utexas.edu/cons/safety/ "The opinions of Dr. Rubin are not meant to offend anyone unless otherwise specified." ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:42:30 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Michael Hottott Subject: Re: Compressed-gas storage In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You're sop's are almost exactly what we do, but on a smaller scale Mike \ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael G. Hottott Department of Chemistry University of Puget Sound Tacoma, WA 98416 e-mail: mhottott@ups.edu Voice: 253-879-3350 FAX: 253-879-3352 To most people solutions mean finding the answers. But to chemists, solutions are things that are still all mixed up. / ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:48:23 -0600 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Rob Carey Subject: Re: Ethidium bromide Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Does anyone know anything about surface decontamination of EtBr? By that I mean staining pans, spatulas, hood and UV light box surfaces? We have used EtBr to do occasional small scale staining under a hood. To protect the hood we use "disposable diaper" type papers, but would like to decontaminate surfaces such as the UV light box, spatulas and staining pans so they can be stored safely until the next time they are used...usually the following semester. ---------- From: Maureen McCloy[SMTP:mccloy@TUI.LINCOLN.AC.NZ] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 12:34 AM To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Subject: Ethidium bromide Hi Ken We've had similar concerns here - I'm having difficulty convincing some (but not all) of our Molecular Bios that ethidium bromide is even hazardous! Anyway, my Hazardous Laboratory Chemicals Disposal Guide (Armour 1996 2nd ed) says: In very dilute aqueous solutions it can be converted to the physiologically inactive product, 2-carboxybenzophenone with chlorine bleach. Wear gloves, lab-coat and goggles and work in the fume cupboard. To a solution of 34mg ethidium bromide in 100mL of water, add 300mL of household chlorine bleach, stir at room temperature for two hours. Wash down the drain with water. We have traditionally used the fabled "tea-bag" carbon absorption treatment but have moved to the bleach method recently and it seems to be working well. Maureen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Maureen McCloy Health and Safety Co-ordinator PO Box 94 Lincoln University Canterbury New Zealand Phone (03) 3252 811 ext 8238 Fax (03) 3253 607 Mobile 021 255 1990 Email mccloy@lincoln.ac.nz ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:55:36 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Job Opportunity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit STOCKROOM MANAGER/ORGANIC LABORATORY PREPARATOR. Salaried full-time position available August 23 in the Department of Chemistry, The College of Wooster, Wooster, OH. Orders, receives, stores, inventories and issues equipment, chemicals and supplies. Sets up equipment, prepares chemical solutions and unknowns for the organic chemistry instructional laboratories. Familiar with Federal and state regulations for the safe storage, use and disposal of chemicals. Coordinates safety information and training, recycling and waste disposal programs. Arranges for maintenance of laboratory equipment. Supervises student assistants. Chemistry degree preferred. Send resume and list of references to: Dr. Virginia B. Pett, Chair, Department of Chemistry, The College of Wooster, Wooster, OH 44691. AA/EOE. The Department of Chemistry is currently moving back into the completely renovated and enlarged classroom and laboratory facilities in Severance Hall The new Stockroom includes an office for the Stockroom Manager, organic and inorganic storage rooms, waste disposal room, storage for glassware and equipment, and bench and hood space for the stockroom personnel and the general chemistry Laboratory Technician. The department offers ACS certified degrees in chemistry, biochemistry and chemical physics. There are on the average about 70 organic chemistry students and 25 chemistry and biochemistry graduates per year. Diane Rossey, Administrative Assistant Department of Chemistry 561 University Street The College of Wooster Wooster, OH 44691 phone: (330) 263-2418 Fax: (330) 263-2386 e-mail: drossey@acs.wooster.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 08:31:27 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Paula Ortiz Subject: Art Safety Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:29:26 -0400 >To: LABSAFETY@siu.edu,SAFETY@LIST.UVM.EDU >From: Paula Ortiz >Subject: Art Safety > >Hello Everyone.... > >I apologize for the cross posting. > >I am looking for information pertaining to art safety. I am specifically interested in PPE and hazardous materials. > >Please respond to me privately. > >Thanks so much...:) > >Paula > > > >Paula Ortiz, MEd, CCHO, CPT >Laboratory Health & Safety Coordinator >Chemical Hygiene Officer >Washington State Community College >710 Colegate Drive >Marietta, Ohio 45750 >Phone: (740)374.8716 >Fax: (740)373.7496 >Email: portiz@wscc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 08:52:45 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Davis, Scott" Subject: Re: Art Safety MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Paula et al: Go see- http://www.artswire.org:70/1/csa/ I think you will find all the art safety info you need. Scott Davis > -----Original Message----- > From: Paula Ortiz [SMTP:portiz@WSCC.EDU] > Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 8:31 AM > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: Art Safety > > >Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:29:26 -0400 > >To: LABSAFETY@siu.edu,SAFETY@LIST.UVM.EDU > >From: Paula Ortiz > >Subject: Art Safety > > > >Hello Everyone.... > > > >I apologize for the cross posting. > > > >I am looking for information pertaining to art safety. I am specifically > interested in PPE and hazardous materials. > > > >Please respond to me privately. > > > >Thanks so much...:) > > > >Paula > > > > > > > >Paula Ortiz, MEd, CCHO, CPT > >Laboratory Health & Safety Coordinator > >Chemical Hygiene Officer > >Washington State Community College > >710 Colegate Drive > >Marietta, Ohio 45750 > >Phone: (740)374.8716 > >Fax: (740)373.7496 > >Email: portiz@wscc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 08:29:09 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Donald E. Clark, Ph.D." Subject: Re: Art Safety In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990806083127.0069c90c@wscc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" THere is a book on this topic: Health Hazards Manualfor Artists; Michael McCann; Nick Lyons Books; I have a copy of the 1985 edition which lists the publisher's address as: 31 West 31st Street, NYC, 10010 dec At 08:31 AM 8/6/99 -0400, you wrote: >>Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:29:26 -0400 >>To: LABSAFETY@siu.edu,SAFETY@LIST.UVM.EDU >>From: Paula Ortiz >>Subject: Art Safety >> >>Hello Everyone.... >> >>I apologize for the cross posting. >> >>I am looking for information pertaining to art safety. I am specifically >interested in PPE and hazardous materials. >> >>Please respond to me privately. >> >>Thanks so much...:) >> >>Paula >> >> >> >>Paula Ortiz, MEd, CCHO, CPT >>Laboratory Health & Safety Coordinator >>Chemical Hygiene Officer >>Washington State Community College >>710 Colegate Drive >>Marietta, Ohio 45750 >>Phone: (740)374.8716 >>Fax: (740)373.7496 >>Email: portiz@wscc.edu > > Donald E. Clark, PhD Chemical and Biological Safety Officer Environmental Health and Safety Department Texas A&M University College Station, TX 77843-4472 Phone (409)845-2132 FAX (409)845-1348 E-mail declark-sh@tamu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:30:17 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Madelyn Miller Subject: CHO at CMU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Carnegie Mellon University Staff Employment Opportunity JOB ANNOUNCEMENT CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY JOB NUMBER-CATEGORY: 4386 - Facilities/Safety DATE: 7/27/99 JH TITLE: Chemical Safety Specialist DEPARTMENT: Environmental Health and Safety NUMBER OF POSITIONS: 1 FT/PT STATUS: Full-time REGULAR/TEMPORARY: Regular SALARY RANGE: $35,241 - $64,373 HIRING SALARY RANGE: $35,241 - $40,000 JOB GRADE: 10 JOB CLASS CODE (JCC): 3542 (not for applicant use) FLSA STATUS: Exempt HOURS: Full-time This position manages the University's laboratory safety, chemical safety, and hazardous waste management programs. Assists University's officials and employees to comply with federal, state and local regulations and consensus safety standards by program development, training, surveillance and providing recommendations to correct safety hazards. Promotes laboratory safety through consultation, laboratory surveys and training. Responds to hazardous material emergencies. Conducts training sessions on safety and regulatory requirements. Does industrial hygiene testing. Reviews new construction projects to minimize environmental impact and incorporate safety. Acts as liaison to city, state and federal regulators. Directs activities of Chemical Safety Technician. QUALIFICATIONS: Bachelor's degree in chemistry, chemical engineering, environmental science/safety or other related scientific discipline; three years of chemical safety related experience; competent with computer applications including word processing, spreadsheet and database software; demonstrated knowledge and interpretation of EPA, DOT, and OSHA regulations; ability to effectively communicate with others and to keep accurate records; able to supervise activities of Chemical Safety Technician; proficient with field survey instrumentation, including field calibration and the interpretation of measurements. Preferred qualifications: CIH and/or CHO licenses. This is a summary statement of the responsibilities and qualifications for this position. Carnegie Mellon is an AA/EEO employer. APPLICANT INSTRUCTIONS: You are required to submit a separate application or resume for each position of interest to you. Please indicate on the materials you submit the job number and title of the job for which you seek referral. Please do not contact the hiring department directly. HUMAN RESOURCES - EMPLOYMENT Whitfield Hall 143 N. Craig Street Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-4747 Jobline 412-268-8545 ---------------------- Madelyn Miller Director & Chemical Hygiene Officer Environmental Health & Safety Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:50:58 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Art Safety MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi NACHOs LSW distributes the book "The Complete Artists Guide to Health and Safety" ... Jim ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 08:27:56 -0600 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: h & jg stormking Subject: Re: Compressed-gas storage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The only questions/suggestions I have are: 1) If empties are outside labs, are they secured (e.g. wall clamps)? An empty cylinder can still be dangerous. Also, empties of flammables or poisonous are especially dangerous as even that 25 or 50 psi can be released. 2) One way to designate empty vs full is to use a ring or large rubber band around the top of the cylinder. We are able to get the rings directly from our supplier at no cost. It is a lot easier to have people put a ring over the cylinder than to write empty on the tag. 3) Separation of empty and full is a good thing if you have the room, but I have seen empties and fulls kept together without any problems. I guess this partially depends on how many cylinders and types you are keeping in reserved or are awaiting pick-up. Obviously any cylinder hooked up should have more than the minimum (e.g. the 25 or 50 psi). 4) Delivery to labs vs a storage area is dependent on several things. What is the size of your shipping/receiving (S/R) area? Do you have the ability to secure cylinders in the S/R areas? How many labs are you talking about? If there are many, do you have the manpower to deliver them all at the same time? The main issue is the securing of cylinders at all times. Leaving a cylinder unsecured in the S/R or other common area is asking for trouble. Also, our fire department does not allow flammables/poisonous to be kept indoors unless in an area able to handle them (e.g. a 1-2 hour fire walled area for flammables, a ventilated/sprinkled cabinet for poisonous). Storage outside was not considered a problem as long as the cylinders are secured. As for the N2, He, Air and other "safer" gases, storing them inside in the receiving area is OK as long as they are secured. 5) As to the maximum for an empty, I don't believe that has been an issue. It is usually based on the use as to when someone changes out the cylinder. Usually people were good on knowing how much gas was needed for an activity. For instance, if you have a GC which requires He to be running through it continuously to protect the column, the cylinder would be checked daily to assure there was enough gas to get it through the night or weekend. If the cylinder was at risk to run out, it would be changed. For applications in which the cylinder was turned off between uses, it was more a function of how difficult a change out would be during the activity as to whether a new cylinder was put on. Usually, partially filled cylinders aren't kept around for an application that would use "that much" due to storage consideration, they are just sent back as "empty." I hope this helps. Helen Gerhard ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 06:32:29 -0000 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "L. James Stock III" <34emq6k@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Subject: Re: Compressed-gas storage Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I use gas cylinder tags from Lab Safety Supply!!!!! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:13:05 -0600 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Sharyn Bake Subject: CD-ROM HAZWASTE GEN NOW BEING SHIPPED MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Dear Listers, For those of you who might have ordered a copy of the CD-ROM training program for Hazardous Waste Generators I recently created, I wanted to let you know that we are now shipping after a minor delay. We had to upgrade to a different version of the software in order to allow distribution outside of our campus. This has now been accomplished and orders are being shipped. My apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused. Sharyn Baker Instructor/Computer-Based-Training Design University of Colorado Health Sciences Center Department of Facilities Operations Mailstop A078 4200 E. 9th Avenue Denver, Colorado 80262 Email: sharyn.baker@uchsc.edu Office phone: (303) 315-8003 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:36:03 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Alice Vincent Subject: Re: Art Safety In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990806083127.0069c90c@wscc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" One of the most useful groups I've found is ACTS , Arts, Crafts and Theatre Safety They publish a monthly newsletter and a bunch of Data Sheets. http:/www.caseweb.com/acts Alice Vincent Lab/Studio Safety Coordinator Burlington County College Pemberton, NJ 08068 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:26:26 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Debbie Decker Subject: Re: Art Safety In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990806083127.0069c90c@wscc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:31 AM 8/6/99 -0400, you wrote: >>I am looking for information pertaining to art safety. I am specifically >interested in PPE and hazardous materials. I'm ignoring your request for a private posting because I think this is of wider interest. Try the following: Center for Safety in the Arts 5 Beekman Street, New York NY 10038 Tel. 212/227-6220. http://www.artswire.org:70/1/csa The Center for Safety in the Arts has moved their website and I finally found it at the above site. Excellent resource :-) Regards, Deb. Debbie M. Decker, Health and Safety Specialist Environmental Health and Safety University of California, Davis 1 Shields Ave. Davis, CA 95616 (530)754-7964 (530)752-1493 dmdecker@ucdavis.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:54:15 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: James Kapin Subject: San Diego Ventilation Conference Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The San Diego section of the American Industrial Hygiene Association will be hosting its annual Technical Symposium on August 25, 1999. The topics for this year cover a variety of ventilation issues, of special interest will be sessions on VAV, Fume Hoods and Laboratory Air Flow Systems. The symposium will be held on the water at the beautiful Southwestern Yacht Club and the cost is only $60 ($50 for members) for this all day event (including lunch), see the web site for complete information. Sign up quick, space is limited, and feel free to call if you have any questions - Jim Jim Kapin UCSD Chemical Safety Officer (Dir. of Community Affairs, SDAIHA) Mail Code 0920 9500 Gilman Drive, La Jolla CA 92093 (858)534-2823 fax (858)534-7982 mailto:jkapin@ucsd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:42:10 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Lucy M. Zotter" Subject: EPA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone have information on the recent EPA visits to academic institutions? Any good sugestions for complience? Lucy Zotter ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:02:29 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Janeen LaPierre Subject: Re: EPA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ** High Priority ** Being an institution in region one who as yet has not been inspected, I will say that your question is a loaded one and one that many may not feel at liberty to discuss in this forum. I attended a conference last week were the EPA was presenting info for us on this issue. It was an eye opener for me. We have been very proactive on this front, but it became all too clear that OSHA and EPA regs are really coming from very different points of view. OSHA addressed issues of regs not fitting all situations by instituting the Lab Standard. EPA has no like reg. Many of the regs they do have are very bad fits for academic institutions. Teaching labs are not the same as a production line when you try to evaluate it for waste streams and characterization purposes. We have chosen to rely on out side experts with lots of experience with university and college settings. Internal audits are an excellent tool and a great learning experience. Calling on your haz waste disposal firm ! for their expertise can help. Compliance will not come with a small price tag, but neither will noncompliance. The letter from the EPA to college and university presidents was one of the most valuable tools to get upper administration on line with these issues. All the press on the fines levied against URI, BU, UNH, and MIT has also gotten the attention of administration. I learned that as well as I know the lab standard, I am equally unfamiliar with the intricacies of the EPA regs. I found out yesterday that some items I as a CHO would call Hazardous, EPA does not. EPA has put colleges and universities on notice that they will inspect and they will levy fines. I'm sure that region one is only the first and other regions in the country will soon follow suit. Act now and try to get your upper level management's attention to deal with the issue sooner rather than later. For what its worth, Janeen. :):):):):):):):):):):):) Janeen Lapierre, CHO College of Osteopathic Medicine University of New England 11 Hills Beach Road Biddeford, ME 04005 E-Mail: JLaPierre@MAILBOX.UNE.EDU Phone: (207) 283-0170 ext 2446 Opinions are mine and not those of UNE. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:12:02 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Jeff Wawrzeniak Subject: Fall protection training consultant Comments: To: safety@list.uvm.edu, LISTSERV@list.uvm.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am interesting in obtaining information for consultants who perform on site, or at their training facility, fall protection competency training for a total of approximately 30 individuals. Interested parties may contact Jeff Wawrzeniak at 609-485-6896. Thank you. Jeff Wawrzeniak Safety Office FAA Technical Center Atlantic city, NJ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:45:21 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Don Abramowitz Subject: Re: Fall protection training consultant In-Reply-To: <000C6FF6.C22022@tc.faa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" (Responding to the group because it may be of interest to others...) Consider contacting major fall protection equipment manufacturers, as some offer comprehensive on-site training with mobile demonstration apparatus. Two manufacturers come to mind: Miller and Rose. Of course, they'd like you to buy their products, but there is value in training with the actual equipment your employees will use. Don > I am interesting in obtaining information for consultants who perform > on site, or at their training facility, fall protection competency > training for a total of approximately 30 individuals. > > Interested parties may contact Jeff Wawrzeniak at 609-485-6896. > > Thank you. > > Jeff Wawrzeniak > Safety Office > FAA Technical Center > Atlantic city, NJ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Donald Abramowitz, CIH Occupational and Environmental Safety Officer Bryn Mawr College | Swarthmore College 101 N. Merion Avenue | 500 College Avenue Bryn Mawr PA 19010 | Swarthmore PA 19081 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:50:38 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Ray Campbell Subject: MSDS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone have an MSDS for Toluene that they can E mail to me? Ray Campbell REA CCHO 310-257-1080 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:57:20 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "L. James Stock III" <34EMQ6K@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Subject: Re: MSDS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Emailer_-1277599009" --Emailer_-1277599009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Here you go! --Emailer_-1277599009 Content-Type: application/mac-binhex40; name="toluene.doc.hqx" Part 1.2Type: Macintosh BinHex Archive (application/mac-binhex40) --Emailer_-1277599009-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:19:08 -0600 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Mark Smith Subject: Equipment In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990812104932.00940d40@solan.spp.varian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We are preparing for a move to a new facility and have a ton of older equipment that we are not going to have room to store. Equipment includes: Old Analytical Balances and some older top-loading balances. Some old glassware such as: distillation flasks, thistle tubes, flared neck round bottoms, test tubes, filter flasks. Many of these items are in excellent condition and some have never been unpackaged. If anyone is interested in obtaining some of these items or you know a place that will buy them at a "super reduced" price please let me know. REPLY DIRECT PLEASE. smithme@mercury.hendrix.edu ms *************************************** MARK SMITH HENDRIX COLLEGE CHEMISTRY LABORATORY COORDINATOR CHEMICAL HYGIENE OFFICER NRCC-CHO *************************************** 1600 Washington Ave Conway, AR 72032 501-450-3812 Fax : 501-450-3829 *************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:29:23 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Donald E. Clark, Ph.D." Subject: Re: Equipment In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mark: Be sure that anyone who gets this type of equipment has legitimate use. I'm not sure about laws that you are subject to, but in Texas the exchange of such items is closely watched by at least 2 agencies to assure that were not equipping a garage drug lab. dec At 03:19 PM 8/12/99 -0600, you wrote: >We are preparing for a move to a new facility and have a ton of older >equipment that we are not going to have room to store. > >Equipment includes: > >Old Analytical Balances and some older top-loading balances. >Some old glassware such as: distillation flasks, thistle tubes, flared neck >round bottoms, test tubes, filter flasks. >Many of these items are in excellent condition and some have never been >unpackaged. > >If anyone is interested in obtaining some of these items or you know a >place that will buy them at a "super reduced" price please let me know. > >REPLY DIRECT PLEASE. smithme@mercury.hendrix.edu > >ms > >*************************************** > MARK SMITH > HENDRIX COLLEGE CHEMISTRY > LABORATORY COORDINATOR > CHEMICAL HYGIENE OFFICER NRCC-CHO >*************************************** > 1600 Washington Ave > Conway, AR 72032 > 501-450-3812 > Fax : 501-450-3829 >*************************************** > > Donald E. Clark, PhD Chemical and Biological Safety Officer Environmental Health and Safety Department Texas A&M University College Station, TX 77843-4472 Phone (409)845-2132 FAX (409)845-1348 E-mail declark-sh@tamu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:24:41 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Teresa Robertson Organization: CSU Bakersfield Subject: AIHA San Diego Aug 25th Comments: cc: trobertson@csubak.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Who's planning on attending the AIHA Indoor Air Quality Symposium? Teresa Robertson CSUB ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:54:41 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Nick Spare Subject: Fireproofing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I apologize for being slightly off the usual subjects but does anyone know of a spray-on fireproofing treatment for paper (that is legal in California)? My 3-year-old's pre-school classroom has a floor-to-ceiling "tree" made from brown paper. It has branches which are used for seasonal decorations and its much loved by the kids. During the last inspection by the fire department it was suggested that it be fireproofed (can't blame the FD for that!). The only "help" that was given as regards to how to accomplish this feat was "don't use the stuff designed for Christmas trees." The only paper fireproofing I can find in the company library entails pre-soaking paper in aluminum sulfate solution and allowing it to dry - obviously not appropriate here. All suggestions can made to the group as a whole or to me directly. Thanks in advance Nick Spare Pilot Chemical ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:13:05 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Swiki Anderson Subject: Re: AIHA San Diego Aug 25th Me... Swiki A. Anderson, Ph.D., P.E. Office: Swiki Anderson and Associates, Inc. 1516 Shiloh Ave., Bryan, TX 77803 v. 409.779-6068, x11; f -6085; 800.949-1996 website: http://saai-svc.com -----Original Message----- From: Teresa Robertson [SMTP:Teresa_Robertson@FIRSTCLASS1.CSUBAK.EDU] Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 9:25 AM To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Subject: AIHA San Diego Aug 25th Who's planning on attending the AIHA Indoor Air Quality Symposium? Teresa Robertson CSUB ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:57:11 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Katie Crysup Subject: New Orleans ACS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is anyone going to the ACS meeting in New Orleans next week. I am the only one attending from my school and am looking for dinner companions. Katie Crysup Chemistry Laboratory Coordinator Texas A&M University -- Corpus Christi 6300 Ocean Drive, CS 130 Corpus Christi, Tx 78412 361-825-5701 (O) 361-825-2742 (F) kcrysup@falcon.tamucc.edu **Notice new exchange, old 994- exchange not valid after August 18, 1999** **Area code change, 512 no longer valid after Sept 1999** ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:25:03 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Naomi Kelly Subject: Need info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone have any information on Potassium Nitroso Disulfonate? Our chemistry dept. has presented some as waste. It is in open jars inside a desiccator. They seemed to be leery of it, which makes us quite nervous (these people are not afraid of dry picric acid). They want us to remove it from the desiccator and dispose of it. I have been unable to find any info on this chemical and our hazardous waste manager is obviously anxious about handling it. Naomi Kelly Environmental Health and Safety Officer Clemson University 261 P&AS Building Clemson, SC 29634-5740 (864)656-7554 Fax (864)656-7630 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:54:38 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Mark Yanchisin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Greetings! Looking for any info about "FRP" ductwork. This is fiberglass reinforced plastic (I was told it is fiberglass wrapped PVC). A lab under renovation is proposing it for a perchloric acid washdown hood. They do not want any metal duct work. Actually they want no metals at all in the room, as it is a trace metals lab that has assays sensitive enough to pick up metals from door handles, plumbing, drop ceiling supports, etc. (Not sure what we will do about the sprinkler heads. They actually painted over them in their old lab and the called us nasty names when we had them changed out at big $$$s.) Any thoughts or info will be appreciated!! Thanks in advance! Mark Yanchisin Coordinator for Clinical and Lab Safety Programs University of Florida Env. Health and Safety PO Box 112195 Building 104 Gainesville, FL 32611-2195 352-392-1591 (T) 352-392-3414 (F) Mark@ehs.ufl.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:02:43 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Teresa Robertson Organization: CSU Bakersfield Subject: Re: Need info Comments: cc: trobertson@csubak.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit LABSAFETY-L@siu.edu,.internet writes: >Does anyone have any information on Potassium Nitroso Disulfonate? Naomi, Acros is a supplier. It is also called Fremy's salt. It is a reagent for the oxidation of a variety of phenols and anilines to quinones. http://www.fishersci.com/catalogs/acrosgroup.jhtml;$sessionid$VFI0BTQAAA P1WCWIZABAAAA?catalogParamId=1348616&catalogParamType=AG&catalogParamVie w=norm The above site has a little info, and a link to an MSDS; with not much info, but.... Stable under normal temperatures and pressures. Air sensitive, moisture sensitive, store at -20C. Hope this helps, Teresa ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:02:00 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Ray Campbell In-Reply-To: <435ACBA4E161D1118AC7006008A057A05A0378@ehs-nts1.ehs.ufl.ed u> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It will work, but you should remember that you will have (I hope ) sprinkler pipe and heads in the ductwork. I suggest that you cover the heads with plastic bags. I did so with the blessing of the local agencies and Factory Mutual. I have a great deal of FRP ductwork as I deal with organosilane reactions every day. The pH is about 1-2. Ray Campbell REA CCHO 310-257-1080 At 04:54 PM 8/16/99 -0400, you wrote: >Greetings! > >Looking for any info about "FRP" ductwork. This is fiberglass reinforced >plastic (I was told it is fiberglass wrapped PVC). A lab under renovation >is proposing it for a perchloric acid washdown hood. They do not want any >metal duct work. Actually they want no metals at all in the room, as it is >a trace metals lab that has assays sensitive enough to pick up metals from >door handles, plumbing, drop ceiling supports, etc. (Not sure what we will >do about the sprinkler heads. They actually painted over them in their old >lab and the called us nasty names when we had them changed out at big $$$s.) > >Any thoughts or info will be appreciated!! Thanks in advance! > >Mark Yanchisin >Coordinator for Clinical and Lab Safety > Programs >University of Florida Env. Health and Safety >PO Box 112195 Building 104 >Gainesville, FL 32611-2195 >352-392-1591 (T) >352-392-3414 (F) >Mark@ehs.ufl.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:57:35 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Kevin Green Subject: Instructions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Could someone please send me the instructions to "unsub" from the list. Thanks, Kevin kgreen@thermoset.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:31:06 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Ray Campbell Subject: Re: Instructions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You can never escape.Don't try it again At 03:57 PM 8/16/99 -0500, you wrote: >Could someone please send me the instructions to "unsub" from the list. >Thanks, Kevin >kgreen@thermoset.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:40:57 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Unsub Instructions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi NACHOs, Notwithstanding Ray's great response... the unsub directions and many others are all on the NACHO page of our web site (www.labsafety.org). ... jim ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 Cell: 508-574-6264 Email: labsafe@aol.com Web Site: http://www.labsafety.org/ ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:40:55 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: New Orleans ACS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi NACHOs, I'll be in New Orleans from Thursday afternoon until early monday morning. I'm staying at the Radisson on Canal Street and would love to have a NACHO breackfast there on Sunday morning at 7AM before the DCHAS meeting. And dinner on Thrusday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday are also possibilities. Who else beside Katie and me will be there? ... Jim ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:44:57 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Harry Elston Subject: Re: New Orleans ACS In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:40 PM 8/16/99 -0400, you wrote: >Hi NACHOs, > >I'll be in New Orleans from Thursday afternoon until early monday morning. >I'm staying at the Radisson on Canal Street and would love to have a NACHO >breackfast there on Sunday morning at 7AM before the DCHAS meeting. And >dinner on Thrusday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday are also possibilities. Who >else beside Katie and me will be there? ... Jim > Tell us where the breakfast will be and I'll be there for sure. Harry Harry J. Elston, Ph.D., NRCC-CHO Editor, Chemical Health and Safety Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. --- Ronald Reagan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:07:29 +1000 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Fox, Bill WG" Subject: Re: CD-ROM HAZWASTE GEN NOW BEING SHIPPED MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sharyn, Could you give me more information about this Hazwaste training program? I would like to know if it would be suitable for an industrial R+D facility and how much it costs. Thanks, Bill Fox Laboratory Supervisor BHP Minerals Center For Minerals Technology 204 Edison Way Reno, Nevada 89502 -----Original Message----- From: Sharyn Bake [mailto:Sharyn.Baker@UCHSC.EDU] Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 8:13 AM To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Subject: CD-ROM HAZWASTE GEN NOW BEING SHIPPED Dear Listers, For those of you who might have ordered a copy of the CD-ROM training program for Hazardous Waste Generators I recently created, I wanted to let you know that we are now shipping after a minor delay. We had to upgrade to a different version of the software in order to allow distribution outside of our campus. This has now been accomplished and orders are being shipped. My apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused. Sharyn Baker Instructor/Computer-Based-Training Design University of Colorado Health Sciences Center Department of Facilities Operations Mailstop A078 4200 E. 9th Avenue Denver, Colorado 80262 Email: sharyn.baker@uchsc.edu Office phone: (303) 315-8003 EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify The Broken Hill Proprietary Company Limited immediately via mailto:postmaster@bhp.com.au. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:32:18 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: New Orleans ACS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi NACHOs, Let's have the breakfast in the restaurant on Sunday at 7AM in the same hotel where DCHAS is having their meeting (probably the Westin). I'll have to check tomorrow when I'm in the office unless someone can confirm it this evening. ... Jim ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:55:30 -0500 Reply-To: swihart@purdue.edu Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: L A Swihart Organization: Purdue University Subject: Re: New Orleans ACS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Count me in. Westin Canal Place or wherever. I'll be coming from the Vieux Carre and if someone has a car and wants to make the most of it, we'd accept the ride. Although the taxi drivers seem to often fit a very cool stereotype. Might be two of us if I can get the tourist up that early for breakfast. (tourist = husband) Linda Labsafe@AOL.COM wrote: > > Hi NACHOs, > > Let's have the breakfast in the restaurant on Sunday at 7AM in the same hotel > where DCHAS is having their meeting (probably the Westin). I'll have to > check tomorrow when I'm in the office unless someone can confirm it this > evening. ... Jim ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:01:49 -0500 Reply-To: swihart@purdue.edu Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: L A Swihart Organization: Purdue University Subject: Re: New Orleans ACS - DCHAS meeting Sunday am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been looking in the ACS New Orleans meeting web pages, and I find Divisional Business Meeting at WYNDHAM, Bacchus B. http://schedule.acs.org/cgi-bin/ACS/personalScheduler.exe?FNC=listEvents__AsearchMain_html___DM___Divisional&sp;Business&sp;Meeting (That will NOT all fit into a clickable link I'm sure.) Linda Labsafe@AOL.COM wrote: > > Hi NACHOs, > > Let's have the breakfast in the restaurant on Sunday at 7AM in the same hotel > where DCHAS is having their meeting (probably the Westin). I'll have to > check tomorrow when I'm in the office unless someone can confirm it this > evening. ... Jim ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:29:59 -0600 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Sharyn Bake Subject: Re: CD-ROM HAZWASTE GEN NOW BEING SHIPPED MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Bill, I have included the original announcement and additional information below, including the READ ME file off of the CD-ROM. Let me know if you are interested in ordering. Price for you is $50.00 plus $5.00 shipping and handling. It is the best deal since mayonaise, even if I do say so myself. We soon may not be able to distribute this at this price as our Office of Technology Transfer is getting involved. We may have to give them the CBT and wait while they contract with an outside firm to market. Of course, in any such eventuality, the price will surely be much higher to those outside of Colorado........ Let me know if I can provide further assistance. Sharyn Baker Instructor/Computer-Based-Training Design University of Colorado Health Sciences Center Department of Facilities Operations Mailstop A078 4200 E. 9th Avenue Denver, Colorado 80262 Email: sharyn.baker@uchsc.edu Office phone: (303) 315-8003 ------------------ Interactive Computer-Based Training Program For Hazardous Waste Generators The University of Colorado Health Sciences Center has developed an interactive CD-ROM training program for generators of hazardous waste. This fully interactive multimedia tutorial provides an hour-long training program on the topics of * the impact of hazardous waste on the environment and human health * the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act * the Colorado Hazardous Waste Regulations, including information on what is a hazardous waste, and generator responsibilities (mirrors those of the EPA) * hazardous waste management procedures related to waste storage and accumulation, container management, chemical segregation and storage, preparedness and prevention, contingency planning and emergency response. The tutorial may serve as initial or annual refresher generator training. It is suitable for delivery at a single computer or as a laptop projected program in a classroom setting with an instructor controlling the pace of the presentation. The CD-ROM was created by Sharyn Baker, MA, Instructor for Facilities Operations, at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center. She has 25 years experience designing and providing environmental, safety and health training. The cross-platform CD was written using Macromedia Director which requires no special software on the users computer. TO ORDER This program is available for $30.00 plus $5.00 shipping and handling to all educational and non-profit institutions in the State of Colorado. For out of state educational institutions and non profit organizations the cost is $50.00 plus $5.00 shipping and handling. The program is also available to businesses at a cost of $100.00 plus $5.00 shipping and handling. Specific customization of the program is available at a reasonable cost. Orders may be sent to the attention of Sharyn Baker at the address below. Checks are the only form of payment acceptable at this time and should be made payable to the: UCHSC Department of Facilities Operations For further information about this program contact her at the address, email or phone number below. --------- > The computer based training program is on a CD-ROM with a written manual > that mirrors the material on the CD-ROM. The manual may easily be > customized > by you, or anyone else for that matter, by simply deleting information > that > is not relevant and inserting your own site-specific material. Probably > most > of the customization would involve the 3rd and 4th modules. > > The program on the CD is written in four separate modules. The first > module > is sort of an attention grabber - that we have a problem from earlier > years > created by improper hazardous waste disposal. The second module is about > the > Resource Conservation and Recovery Act and provides a lengthy section > about > what is a hazardous waste (listed vs characteristic - quite thorough). The > third module is about types of generators (small quantity, large quantity > etc) and details some specific generator requirements. > > The 4th module is about waste management procedures applicable to all > types > of generators. It deals with storage and accumulation, waste minimization, > chemical storage, Satellite vs 90-day accumulation requirements, emergency > response, contingency plan issues etc. > > It is a very thorough program. What I mean about customization is that > ,for > example, I could delete all references to Colorado regulations, or include > site specific materials on waste generation and handling for a given > facility. The 4th module could easily be customized to reflect the types > of > processes and wastes produced by a particular type of industry and > provide > guidance about how to manage those wastes. > > The cost of customization is dependent upon how much material (written > guidance, photos etc) the client provides. The less I have to create, the > less time it will take me to do it, the cheaper it will be. The program is > multimedia, meaning it has sound, photos and even a video. There are 10 > multiple choice questions interspersed throughout the program. So, it is > somewhat entertaining besides providing what I think is the most > comprehensive tutorial available. > > > It is available to educational institutions and non-profits outside of > Colorado at $50.00 plus $5.00 shipping and handling. For industry and > business the cost is $100.00 plus shipping and handling. Extra CDs are > $10.00 each but I expect that to drop with my acquiring better duplication > equipment. > > Please feel free to ask specific questions if you need more information. I > am also including the READ ME file below form the CD-ROM for your > information. > ------------ > Hazardous Waste Generator CD-ROM Training Program > > This hazardous waste generator training program was created because of an > agreement between the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, > Department of Facilities Operations, and the Colorado Department of Public > Health and Environment, Hazardous Materials and Waste Management Division. > The program is intended for use by educational and public entities in the > State of Colorado to provide training for generators of hazardous waste. > Because the program closely mirrors the U.S. EPA hazardous waste > regulations, it is also suitable for training generators in other states. > > To Play > Adjust the sound volume on your computer to a level that suits you. Put > the > CD-ROM in a CD-ROM player (see minimum system requirements below). Open > the > appropriately labeled folder. In the MAC version click on the icon that > says > "Play HazWaste CD-ROM". If you are using a PC, click on the file that > says > "PC Projector.exe". Please note that the CD-ROM takes a minute or so to > load > and will start to play automatically. After the introduction, the "How > To" > section will appear and the user will then control the pace of playback > until Module 1. Module 1 runs automatically for part of the module and > then > control is returned to the user for the duration of the program. Please > note > that if the program is terminated before the end of the tutorial, the > computer will not remember the place where the user terminated the > program. > > Program Availability > The computer-based training program and accompanying manual is available > at > a cost of $30.00 to educational and public organizations in the State of > Colorado. For educational organizations outside the State of Colorado, the > price is $50.00 plus $5.00 shipping and handling. The program is also > available to businesses at a nominal cost. If your organization wishes to > obtain or distribute multiple copies of this resource, contact Sharyn > Baker > at the address below for information regarding the nominal cost of > replication of the CD-ROM. > > Customization of the CD-ROM > This program was designed in modular form so customization of the last > module, entitled "Hazardous Waste Management Procedures", could be easily > accomplished. Customization of the program is available at a nominal fee. > For further information contact Sharyn Baker at the address provided > below. > > Copyright > The tutorial portion and many of the photos on the "Hazardous Waste > Generator Training" CD- ROM are copyright protected. The accompanying > written manual mirrors the interactive multimedia CD-ROM computer-based > training program. The CD-ROM may NOT be copied, disassembled, modified or > sold by any other entity. The written materials may be modified, as > necessary, to reflect institutional procedures governing hazardous waste > management provided that: > > * No fee is charged, > * The credit page is left intact and included with the written material, > * The modifications to the original manual are clearly identified. > > If you wish to use the material for non-educational purposes, written > approval must be obtained from the author or the Department of Facilities > Operations at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center. > > Program Delivery > The program is suitable for delivery to single generators via personal > computer. It can also be delivered by projecting it to a larger audience > with an instructor controlling the pace of the presentation and available > to > answer questions. The manual, though missing the interaction and media > elements, may serve as a stand-alone training manual. The Colorado > Hazardous > Waste Regulations also require on-the-job training and this program should > be supplemented by specific person-to-person training in the work > environment. A written examination may be created by each institution and > administered to document program completion. > > Minimum System Requirements > The CD-ROM runs on both PCs and Macs. Aside from the minimum system > configurations specified below, the program requires no special software > or > hardware. Every effort has been made to ensure that this program will run > on > the majority of computers in the marketplace. However, due the multitude > of > possible computer configurations, both hardware and software (especially > PCs), the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center cannot guarantee > that it will run on every machine. > > Please note that the program has been tested on various configurations of > PCs and Macs on desktop machines. Slow CD-ROM playback and slow processor > speed on some computers may create a minimal lag in the playback in some > parts of Module 1 and in parts of the Colorado Hazardous Waste Regulations > Module. This problem should not interfere with completion of the program. > The program has not been extensively tested on laptops, but it is known to > run smoothly on a Mac G3 laptop with a 250 MHz processor, 64 MB RAM and a > 20X CD. Using the same MAC G3 laptop, the program will run smoothly in a > simulated Windows 95 environment using Virtual PC software (version 2.0). > If > you are having difficulty running the program and your machine meets the > hardware and software requirements below, please contact Sharyn Baker at > the > email address or phone number listed below. > > The minimum system requirements are as follows: > > Multimedia Capable PC > Pentium MMX 200 MHz or faster > 32 MB RAM (64 MB preferred) > 6X CD-ROM Drive (20X preferred) > MPC Compatible Speakers and 16-Bit Sound Card > (Sound Blaster or Macromedia Approved) > Monitor and video card (local bus) capable of displaying > 16-Bit Color (Thousands of Colors) at 640 X 480 > Microsoft Windows 95, 98 or NT > > Apple Macintosh or clone > PPC 100 MHz or faster > 32 MB of RAM (64 MB preferred) > 6X CD-ROM (20X preferred) > Monitor capable of displaying > 16-Bit Color (Thousands of Colors) at 640 X 480 > System 7.5 of later > QuickTime 2.5 or higher > > The latest version of QuickTime software may be downloaded free from this > website: www.apple.com/quicktime/ > > For further information about the program please contact the program > author: > Sharyn Baker Instructor/Computer-Based-Training Design University of Colorado Health Sciences Center Department of Facilities Operations Mailstop A078 4200 E. 9th Avenue Denver, Colorado 80262 Email: sharyn.baker@uchsc.edu Office phone: (303) 315-8003 > ---------- > From: Fox, Bill WG > Reply To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List > Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 7:07 PM > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: Re: CD-ROM HAZWASTE GEN NOW BEING SHIPPED > > Sharyn, > > Could you give me more information about this Hazwaste training program? I > would like to know if it would be suitable for an industrial R+D facility > and how much it costs. > > Thanks, > Bill Fox > Laboratory Supervisor > BHP Minerals Center For Minerals Technology > 204 Edison Way > Reno, Nevada 89502 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sharyn Bake [mailto:Sharyn.Baker@UCHSC.EDU] > Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 8:13 AM > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: CD-ROM HAZWASTE GEN NOW BEING SHIPPED > > > Dear Listers, > > For those of you who might have ordered a copy of the CD-ROM training > program for Hazardous Waste Generators I recently created, I wanted to let > you know that we are now shipping after a minor delay. We had to upgrade > to > a different version of the software in order to allow distribution outside > of our campus. This has now been accomplished and orders are being > shipped. > > My apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused. > Sharyn Baker > Instructor/Computer-Based-Training Design > University of Colorado Health Sciences Center > Department of Facilities Operations > Mailstop A078 > 4200 E. 9th Avenue > Denver, Colorado 80262 > Email: sharyn.baker@uchsc.edu > Office phone: (303) 315-8003 > > EOM > > NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of > the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in > reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify > The Broken Hill Proprietary Company Limited immediately via > mailto:postmaster@bhp.com.au. > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:00:19 -0600 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Dean Calhoun Subject: Dean Calhoun/Boulder/NeXstar is out of the office. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I will be out of the office starting 08/16/99 and will not return until 08/19/99. I will respond to your message when I get back. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:25:50 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Justis, Desi" Subject: Re: New Orleans ACS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jim, I'll be in New Orleans.. Sunday night is better for me. I'm staying at the Radisson, also. Desi Justis, M.Ed. Sciences Resource Manager Chemical Hygiene Officer School of Science, Mathematics, and Computer Science Lynchburg College Lynchburg, VA 24501 (804) 544-8361 email: Justis_C@mail.lynchburg.edu < mailto:Justis_C@mail.lynchburg.edu > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:26:00 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Don Abramowitz In-Reply-To: <435ACBA4E161D1118AC7006008A057A05A0378@ehs-nts1.ehs.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I don't know the particulars about FRP ductwork, but just a thought on the PVC plastic aspect: A variety of metal compounds are used as stabilizers, pigments, and to impart certain mechanical properties to particular batches of PVC resin, depending on the application. These include lead, cobalt, and cadmium compounds, and titanium dioxide. (e.g., Not likely here, but I have seen arsenic compounds blended into PVC to give it mildew resistance for shower curtains.) Check the manufacturer's specs to make sure there are no surprises. Don >Looking for any info about "FRP" ductwork. This is fiberglass reinforced >plastic (I was told it is fiberglass wrapped PVC). Actually they want no >metals at all in the room, as it is >a trace metals lab that has assays sensitive enough to pick up metals from >door handles, plumbing, drop ceiling supports, etc. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:33:20 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Bob Byington Organization: The University of Memphis Subject: Re: New Orleans ACS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will be in New Orleans from Sunday morning through Tuesday evening. I would really like to meet with you guys while we're down there. Let me know. When do we eat? Bob Labsafe@AOL.COM wrote: > > Hi NACHOs, > > I'll be in New Orleans from Thursday afternoon until early monday morning. > I'm staying at the Radisson on Canal Street and would love to have a NACHO > breackfast there on Sunday morning at 7AM before the DCHAS meeting. And > dinner on Thrusday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday are also possibilities. Who > else beside Katie and me will be there? ... Jim -- Bob Byington Laboratory Safety Specialist,WebMaster Environmental Health and Safety 210B Old Brister Library The University of Memphis Memphis, TN 38152-6191 (901) 678-4672 fax (901) 678-4673 rbyingtn@memphis.edu homepage: http://www.people.memphis.edu/~ehas personal: http://www.people.memphis.edu/~rbyingtn ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:35:00 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Bob Byington Organization: The University of Memphis Subject: Re: New Orleans ACS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will be at the Hilton Riverfront from Sunday morning until Tuesday evening. I would love to meet with you guys while we're down there. When do we eat? Bob Labsafe@AOL.COM wrote: > > Hi NACHOs, > > I'll be in New Orleans from Thursday afternoon until early monday morning. > I'm staying at the Radisson on Canal Street and would love to have a NACHO > breackfast there on Sunday morning at 7AM before the DCHAS meeting. And > dinner on Thrusday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday are also possibilities. Who > else beside Katie and me will be there? ... Jim -- Bob Byington Laboratory Safety Specialist,WebMaster Environmental Health and Safety 210B Old Brister Library The University of Memphis Memphis, TN 38152-6191 (901) 678-4672 fax (901) 678-4673 rbyingtn@memphis.edu homepage: http://www.people.memphis.edu/~ehas personal: http://www.people.memphis.edu/~rbyingtn ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:18:38 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Janeen LaPierre Subject: Re: New Orleans ACS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ** High Priority ** I will be in New Orleans from Saturday to Tuesday. I too am my schools only representative attending. Lets get together. Janeen :):):):):):):):):):):):) Janeen Lapierre, CHO College of Osteopathic Medicine University of New England 11 Hills Beach Road Biddeford, ME 04005 E-Mail: JLaPierre@MAILBOX.UNE.EDU Phone: (207) 283-0170 ext 2446 Opinions are mine and not those of UNE. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:18:15 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Naomi Kelly Subject: Re: Peroxidizable Compounds In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990720140649.00696784@ehsd.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If you ever received this info, would you please fax me a copy? Thanks At 02:06 PM 7/20/99 -0500, you wrote: >Have been looking (so far unsuccessfully) for a copy of the National Safety >Council publication "Recognitionof Peroxidizable Compounds: Data Sheet 655 >(1987). If available on Net, please send the address via e-mail or fax if >you have a copy. > >THanks. > >dec >Donald E. Clark, PhD >Chemical and Biological Safety Officer >Environmental Health and Safety Department >Texas A&M University >College Station, TX 77843-4472 >Phone (409)845-2132 >FAX (409)845-1348 >E-mail declark-sh@tamu.edu Naomi Kelly Environmental Health and Safety Officer Clemson University 261 P&AS Building Clemson, SC 29634-5740 (864)656-7554 Fax (864)656-7630 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:52:29 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: New Orleans ACS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi NACHOs, I can confirm that the DCHAS meeting is Sunday at the Wyndham Hotel. So, the NACHO breakfast is in their restaurant starting at 7AM. All are welcome for the dutch treat extravaganza. And, I will share the new NACHO theme song!!! ... jim PS. The very thought probably causes indigestion. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:23:30 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Robert Burns Subject: FW: stuff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Nachos, I found this on the sci.chem newsgroup. Can any of you academic types help him? Reply to him, please, not me. Bob "Semper Adventurus!" Robert L. Burns Group Leader, R&D Ruetgers Organics Corporation Email rburns@ruetgers-organics-corp.com Phone 814 231 9214 -----Original Message----- From: Bob Burns [mailto:rburns@bigfoot.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 20:49 To: aaamew work Subject: stuff I work in a university laboratory where there are about twenty students doing environmental engineering research. In the course of their research, they work with many different chemicals, some of which are hazardous. In addition, many of the analytical procedures they perform involve hazards of one form or another (e.g., bunsen burners, hotplates, syringe needles, etc.). Although the students receive lab safety training, they are not tested on this knowledge. Since I have observed that students tend to put a lot more effort into their studies when they know there will be a quiz, I am planning on incorporating testing into our lab safety training. Of course, testing will also help uncover students whose knowledge of lab safety is lacking. In order to have effective exams, I would like to have a large pool of questions from which to pull a random sample when producing each exam. If you have suggestions for general lab safety questions, or have a quiz you would be willing to contribute, I'd greatly appreciate it. After I compile my database of questions, I'd be willing to share it so that others may make use of it. Phil Calvert -- ------------------------------------ !-----------Phil Calvert-----------! !---calvert.NoSpam@eos.ncsu.edu----! ------------------------------------ NOTE: If present, the phrase ".NoSpam" must be removed from my return address before sending your reply. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:57:53 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Susan Lauterbach Subject: Nachos in NOLA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'll be staying with family while in NOLA, but would like to visit with the group. I don't see how anyone can rise for a 7am breakfast on a Sunday morning after being festive the nite before. I'll be at the Laboratory Workshop on Friday and hopefully can make contact with some of you then for a potential rendez vous. See y'all in the Big Easy..... Susan Susan K. Lauterbach, M.S. Coordinator, Instructional Laboratories and Facility Safety University of Oklahoma Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry 620 Parrington Oval, Room 208 Norman, OK 73019 Phone: 405-325-2742 FAX: 405-325-6111 e-mail: sklauterbach@ou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:10:56 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: JCHEMED Book Reviews Comments: cc: "Edward J. Walsh" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi NACHOs, The ACS Journal of Chemical Education would like to find knowledgeable folks to do reviews of health and safety books. If you are interested, contact Ed Walsh (ewalsh@alleg.edu). ... jak ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 Cell: 508-574-6264 Email: labsafe@aol.com Web Site: http://www.labsafety.org/ ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:46:41 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: New Name Contest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi NACHOs, The Laboratory Safety Workshop is considering changing its name. So we're going to have a contest to solicit suggestions. The winner or winners (if more than one person submit the name that's selected) will receive or share LSW's two-day video short course (list price $795.00). Our name grew out of our first activity ... conducting laboratory safety workshops for secondary science teachers. The name change is the first step in giving all or our materials a more contemporary and focused look. Thanks for your help and suggestions. Want more information? Ask. ... jim ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 labsafe@aol.com http://www.labsafety.org/ LSW is a national non-profit educational organization dedicated to making health and safety an integral and important part of science education. Free copies of our Laboratory Safety Guidelines, seminar schedule, Publications List, AV-Lending Library List, and membership information are available on request. The LABSAFETY-L discussion list is a public service of LSW. ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:24:39 -0400 Reply-To: duperry@powerlink.net Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: PHIL DUPERRY Organization: MAINE SCHOOL MANAGEMENT ASSN Subject: Re: New Name Contest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Labsafe@AOL.COM wrote: > > Hi NACHOs, > > The Laboratory Safety Workshop is considering changing its name. So we're > going to have a contest to solicit suggestions. The winner or winners (if > more than one person submit the name that's selected) will receive or share > LSW's two-day video short course (list price $795.00). > > Our name grew out of our first activity ... conducting laboratory safety > workshops for secondary science teachers. The name change is the first step > in giving all or our materials a more contemporary and focused look. > > Thanks for your help and suggestions. Want more information? Ask. ... jim > > ***************************************************** > James A. Kaufman, Director > The Laboratory Safety Workshop > Safety in Science Education > 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 > 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 labsafe@aol.com > http://www.labsafety.org/ > > LSW is a national non-profit educational organization dedicated to making > health and safety an integral and important part of science education. Free > copies of our Laboratory Safety Guidelines, seminar schedule, Publications > List, AV-Lending Library List, and membership information are available on > request. The LABSAFETY-L discussion list is a public service of LSW. > > ****************************************************** I think Laboratory Safety Network better reflects your goals and the need to facilitate "networking" between members and the information they need. Philip DuPerry Loss Control Specialist Maine School Management Association ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:35:21 +0300 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Poulose, John V" Subject: Re: New Name Contest MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi NACHO's, The current workshop is basically sharing information (through workshops, discussion groups etc.) among science & industry professionals. So, I would like to propose the following new names: 1) LABORATORY SAFETY INFOSHARE 2) LABORATORY SAFETY INFOCENTER John Poulos Lab Scientist Arabian American Oil Co. (ARAMCO) Saudi Arabia E: poulosvj@aramco.com.sa -----Original Message----- From: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List [mailto:LABSAFETY-L@siu.edu] On Behalf Of Labsafe@AOL.COM Sent: 19 August 1999 14:47 To: LABSAFETY-L@siu.edu Subject: New Name Contest Hi NACHOs, The Laboratory Safety Workshop is considering changing its name. So we're going to have a contest to solicit suggestions. The winner or winners (if more than one person submit the name that's selected) will receive or share LSW's two-day video short course (list price $795.00). Our name grew out of our first activity ... conducting laboratory safety workshops for secondary science teachers. The name change is the first step in giving all or our materials a more contemporary and focused look. Thanks for your help and suggestions. Want more information? Ask. ... jim ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 labsafe@aol.com http://www.labsafety.org/ LSW is a national non-profit educational organization dedicated to making health and safety an integral and important part of science education. Free copies of our Laboratory Safety Guidelines, seminar schedule, Publications List, AV-Lending Library List, and membership information are available on request. The LABSAFETY-L discussion list is a public service of LSW. ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:18:12 -0300 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Aziz M. Abu-khalaf" Subject: Re: LABSAFETY-L Digest - 18 Aug 1999 to 19 Aug 1999 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I suggest: Laboratory Safety Services Safety for Chemical Laboratories Laboratory Safety Institution > >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:46:41 EDT >From: Labsafe@AOL.COM >Subject: New Name Contest > >Hi NACHOs, > >The Laboratory Safety Workshop is considering changing its name. So we're >going to have a contest to solicit suggestions. The winner or winners (if >more than one person submit the name that's selected) will receive or share >LSW's two-day video short course (list price $795.00). > >Our name grew out of our first activity ... conducting laboratory safety >workshops for secondary science teachers. The name change is the first step >in giving all or our materials a more contemporary and focused look. > >Thanks for your help and suggestions. Want more information? Ask. ... jim > **************************************************************************** ******* Aziz M. Abu-Khalaf ***** Tel: 00966 1 4676894 Chemical Engineering Department ***** Fax: 00966 1 4678770 King Saud University ***** E-mail: amkhalaf@ksu.edu.sa PO Box 800 ***** Riyadh 11421, Saudi Arabia ***** **************************************************************************** ******* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:34:40 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Thomas J. Shelley" Subject: Request for EPA Enforcement Action Info Comments: To: Safety , LAB-XL@LIST.UVM.EDU, hazmat-L@ColoradoCollege.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1276620813==_ma============" --============_-1276620813==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Colleagues--The following is a forwarded message from Michael Lonon, Hazardous Mateials Chemist at Cornell EH&S. Please excuse the cross-postings. Thanks. Tom Shelley From: Cornell University Environmental Health & Safety The activities of the various EPA regions in targeting Universities for RCRA compliance have raised the concern levels of our upper management. Our lab-safety group wishes to compile the actual wording of citations from institutions that have been hit recently. Unless you indicate otherwise, we will use this information only within Cornell University. If you are willing to share your citations with us, please e-mail Michael Lonon at ML107@cornell.edu or you may call [607] 255-6995 or fax to Michael's attention at [607] 255-8267. Please indicate if we can use your information in a generic format to share with other interested safety groups. ********************************************************* Tom Shelley, Chemical Hygiene Officer, Cornell University Department of Environmental Health and Safety, 125 Humphreys Service Building, Ithaca, NY 14853. (607) 255-4288 tjs1@cornell.edu ****************************DISCLAIMER******************** The comments and views expressed in this communication are strictly my own and are not to be construed to officially represent those of my peers, supervisors or Cornell University. --============_-1276620813==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GenevaDear Colleagues--The following is a forwarded message from Michael Lonon, Hazardous Mateials Chemist at Cornell EH&S. Please excuse the cross-postings. Thanks. Tom Shelley =46rom: Cornell University Environmental Health & Safety The activities of the various EPA regions in targeting Universities for RCRA compliance have raised the concern levels of our upper management. Our lab-safety group wishes to compile the actual wording of citations from institutions that have been hit recently. Unless you indicate otherwise, we will use this information only within Cornell University. If you are willing to share your citations with us, please e-mail Michael Lonon at 0000,0000,FFFFML107@cornell.edu or you may call [607] 255-6995 or fax to Michael's attention at [607] 255-8267. Please indicate if we can use your information in a generic format to share with other interested safety groups. ********************************************************* Tom Shelley, Chemical Hygiene Officer, Cornell University Department of Environmental Health and Safety, 125 Humphreys Service Buildin= g, Ithaca, NY 14853. (607) 255-4288 tjs1@cornell.edu ****************************DISCLAIMER******************** The comments and views expressed in this communication are strictly my own a= nd are not to be construed to officially represent those of my peers,= supervisors or Cornell University. --============_-1276620813==_ma============-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:48:10 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Lily Lodhi Subject: Re: Request for EPA Enforcement Action Info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII This is going to be a valuable information and I am sure most safety managers would like to share that with their management. If it is possible could you please tabulate the finding without giving universities names and share it with all? Thank you Lily Lodhi >>> "Thomas J. Shelley" 8/24/99 9:34:40 AM >>> Dear Colleagues--The following is a forwarded message from Michael Lonon, Hazardous Mateials Chemist at Cornell EH&S. Please excuse the cross-postings. Thanks. Tom Shelley From: Cornell University Environmental Health & Safety The activities of the various EPA regions in targeting Universities for RCRA compliance have raised the concern levels of our upper management. Our lab-safety group wishes to compile the actual wording of citations from institutions that have been hit recently. Unless you indicate otherwise, we will use this information only within Cornell University. If you are willing to share your citations with us, please e-mail Michael Lonon at ML107@cornell.edu or you may call [607] 255-6995 or fax to Michael's attention at [607] 255-8267. Please indicate if we can use your information in a generic format to share with other interested safety groups. ********************************************************* Tom Shelley, Chemical Hygiene Officer, Cornell University Department of Environmental Health and Safety, 125 Humphreys Service Building, Ithaca, NY 14853. (607) 255-4288 tjs1@cornell.edu ****************************DISCLAIMER******************** The comments and views expressed in this communication are strictly my own and are not to be construed to officially represent those of my peers, supervisors or Cornell University. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:10:53 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Naomi Kelly Subject: Re: New Name Contest In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Institute of Laboratory Safety Laboratory Safety Association Laboratory Association of (for?)Benchmark Safety (LABS) At 07:46 AM 8/19/99 -0400, you wrote: >Hi NACHOs, > >The Laboratory Safety Workshop is considering changing its name. So we're >going to have a contest to solicit suggestions. The winner or winners (if >more than one person submit the name that's selected) will receive or share >LSW's two-day video short course (list price $795.00). > >Our name grew out of our first activity ... conducting laboratory safety >workshops for secondary science teachers. The name change is the first step >in giving all or our materials a more contemporary and focused look. > >Thanks for your help and suggestions. Want more information? Ask. ... jim > > ***************************************************** > James A. Kaufman, Director > The Laboratory Safety Workshop > Safety in Science Education > 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 > 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 labsafe@aol.com > http://www.labsafety.org/ > >LSW is a national non-profit educational organization dedicated to making >health and safety an integral and important part of science education. Free >copies of our Laboratory Safety Guidelines, seminar schedule, Publications >List, AV-Lending Library List, and membership information are available on >request. The LABSAFETY-L discussion list is a public service of LSW. > > ****************************************************** Naomi Kelly Environmental Health and Safety Officer Clemson University 261 P&AS Building Clemson, SC 29634-5740 (864)656-7554 Fax (864)656-7630 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:52:40 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Frank l. Switzer" Subject: Re: New Name Contest In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990824083955.009ec880@mail.clemson.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:10 AM 8/24/99 -0400, you wrote: >The Institute of Laboratory Safety Dear Jim, I think that the Lab Safety Institute would cause the least problems in the changeover. Frank Switzer =============================================== Frank L. Switzer, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Chemistry, Coker College 300 East College Ave. Hartsville, SC 29550 Phone: (843)383-8090 Fax:(843)383-8048 e-mail: fswitzer@pascal.coker.edu http://www.coker.edu/chemistry =============================================== ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:49:56 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Anne T. Sherren" Subject: Re: New Name Contest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This one looks good. Anne Sherren Frank l. Switzer wrote: > At 09:10 AM 8/24/99 -0400, you wrote: > >The Institute of Laboratory Safety > > Dear Jim, > > I think that the Lab Safety Institute would cause the least problems > in the changeover. > > Frank Switzer > > =============================================== > Frank L. Switzer, Ph.D. > Associate Professor of Chemistry, Coker College > 300 East College Ave. Hartsville, SC 29550 > Phone: (843)383-8090 Fax:(843)383-8048 > e-mail: fswitzer@pascal.coker.edu > http://www.coker.edu/chemistry > =============================================== ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:48:32 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Don Abramowitz Subject: Re: New Name Contest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Regarding the "institute"... Wasn't it Groucho Marx who said, "Marriage is a great institution, but who wants to be in an institution?" Couldn't resist :-) Don >> >Lab Safety Institute >> >The Institute of Laboratory Safety >> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:26:40 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Madelyn Miller Subject: Re: New Name Contest In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Well put Groucho. I agree. How about Safety Net Madelyn On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:48:32 -0400 Don Abramowitz wrote: > Regarding the "institute"... Wasn't it Groucho Marx who said, "Marriage > is a great institution, but who wants to be in an institution?" > > Couldn't resist :-) > Don > > >> >Lab Safety Institute > >> >The Institute of Laboratory Safety > >> ---------------------- Madelyn Miller Director & Chemical Hygiene Officer Environmental Health & Safety Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:47:30 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Linda Kern Subject: Re: New Name Contest In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" How bout' JKLMN Jim Kaufman's Laboratory Management Network?! or LMNOP Laboratory Managers' Network of Professionals Just shoot me. Last day on the Job. Great Listserv!!! llk >Well put Groucho. I agree. How about Safety Net >Madelyn > > >On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:48:32 -0400 Don Abramowitz > wrote: > >> Regarding the "institute"... Wasn't it Groucho Marx who said, "Marriage >> is a great institution, but who wants to be in an institution?" >> >> Couldn't resist :-) >> Don >> >> >> >Lab Safety Institute >> >> >The Institute of Laboratory Safety >> >> > >---------------------- >Madelyn Miller >Director & Chemical Hygiene Officer >Environmental Health & Safety >Carnegie Mellon University >Pittsburgh, PA 15213 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:06:33 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Ilona Fiser Subject: Re: New Name Contest In-Reply-To: ; from "Madelyn Miller" at Aug 24, 99 1:26 pm " S A F E T Y NET " is the best so far! I vote for that. Ilona F. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:22:12 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Nick Spare Subject: Re: New Name Contest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Safety Net - I love it!. Note: Groucho also said that he'd never belong to a club that would have him as a member. Would that also apply to email lists? Nick Spare Pilot Chemical -----Original Message----- From: Madelyn Miller To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 10:39 AM Subject: Re: New Name Contest >Well put Groucho. I agree. How about Safety Net >Madelyn > > >On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:48:32 -0400 Don Abramowitz > wrote: > >> Regarding the "institute"... Wasn't it Groucho Marx who said, "Marriage >> is a great institution, but who wants to be in an institution?" >> >> Couldn't resist :-) >> Don >> >> >> >Lab Safety Institute >> >> >The Institute of Laboratory Safety >> >> > >---------------------- >Madelyn Miller >Director & Chemical Hygiene Officer >Environmental Health & Safety >Carnegie Mellon University >Pittsburgh, PA 15213 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:40:46 -0600 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Greene, Ben" Subject: Re: New Name Contest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I hope the name doesn't get too far away from the lab; Laboratory Safety Net? Ben Greene AlliedSignal ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:47:16 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Fleming, Douglas" Subject: Re: New Name Contest Hate to burst any bubbles but........ http://www.safetynet.com/ allready exists. -----Original Message----- From: Nick Spare [mailto:NJSpare@PILOTCHEMICAL.COM] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 1:22 PM To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Subject: Re: New Name Contest Safety Net - I love it!. Note: Groucho also said that he'd never belong to a club that would have him as a member. Would that also apply to email lists? Nick Spare Pilot Chemical -----Original Message----- From: Madelyn Miller To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 10:39 AM Subject: Re: New Name Contest >Well put Groucho. I agree. How about Safety Net >Madelyn > > >On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:48:32 -0400 Don Abramowitz > wrote: > >> Regarding the "institute"... Wasn't it Groucho Marx who said, "Marriage >> is a great institution, but who wants to be in an institution?" >> >> Couldn't resist :-) >> Don >> >> >> >Lab Safety Institute >> >> >The Institute of Laboratory Safety >> >> > >---------------------- >Madelyn Miller >Director & Chemical Hygiene Officer >Environmental Health & Safety >Carnegie Mellon University >Pittsburgh, PA 15213 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:04:58 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Madelyn Miller Subject: Re: New Name Contest In-Reply-To: <71EC0B6488F7D211B0AB00805FC736D82D3D9A@CSMEX118> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Well....That's safetynet. My suggestion was Safety Net. The one drawback would be the website is already taken. Madelyn On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:47:16 -0700 "Fleming, Douglas" wrote: > Hate to burst any bubbles but........ > > http://www.safetynet.com/ allready exists. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Spare [mailto:NJSpare@PILOTCHEMICAL.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 1:22 PM > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: Re: New Name Contest > > > Safety Net - I love it!. > > Note: Groucho also said that he'd never belong to a club that would have him > as a member. Would that also apply to email lists? > > Nick Spare > Pilot Chemical > > -----Original Message----- > From: Madelyn Miller > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 10:39 AM > Subject: Re: New Name Contest > > > >Well put Groucho. I agree. How about Safety Net > >Madelyn > > > > > >On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:48:32 -0400 Don Abramowitz > > wrote: > > > >> Regarding the "institute"... Wasn't it Groucho Marx who said, "Marriage > >> is a great institution, but who wants to be in an institution?" > >> > >> Couldn't resist :-) > >> Don > >> > >> >> >Lab Safety Institute > >> >> >The Institute of Laboratory Safety > >> >> > > > >---------------------- > >Madelyn Miller > >Director & Chemical Hygiene Officer > >Environmental Health & Safety > >Carnegie Mellon University > >Pittsburgh, PA 15213 ---------------------- Madelyn Miller Director & Chemical Hygiene Officer Environmental Health & Safety Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:05:23 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Nick Spare Subject: Re: New Name Contest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK - but it doesn't have anything to do with lab safety! Labsafetynet.com, as another writer suggested, does not exist. I second that suggestion next. -----Original Message----- From: Fleming, Douglas To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 1:51 PM Subject: Re: New Name Contest >Hate to burst any bubbles but........ > >http://www.safetynet.com/ allready exists. > > >Safety Net - I love it!. > > > >>Well put Groucho. I agree. How about Safety Net >>Madelyn >> > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:22:28 -0600 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Carolyn S. Jaussi" Subject: Re: New Name Contest In-Reply-To: <005801beee74$696694a0$2101010a@njs> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Labsafetynet.com I concur...makes sense and would be a fast-track hit for those doing a search for information on laboratory safety. *************************************************************** Carolyn S. Jaussi Biologist, CHO USDA ARS FRRL Utah State University 700 N 1100 E Logan UT 84322-6300 Phone: (435)-797-3222 FAX: (435)-797-3075 Email: csjaussi@cc.usu.edu *************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:14:50 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Frank l. Switzer" Subject: Re: New Name Contest In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990824152228.007aa620@cc.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:22 PM 8/24/99 -0600, you wrote: > Labsafetynet.com > >I concur...makes sense and would be a fast-track hit for those doing a >search for information on laboratory safety. Yes, it shows promise...especially after the NACHO precident...and, of course, LABSAFETY-L Frank Switzer =============================================== Frank L. Switzer, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Chemistry, Coker College 300 East College Ave. Hartsville, SC 29550 Phone: (843)383-8090 Fax:(843)383-8048 e-mail: fswitzer@pascal.coker.edu http://www.coker.edu/chemistry =============================================== ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 04:11:03 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Debbie Decker Subject: Re: New Name Contest In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990824181450.00814ad0@pascal.coker.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:14 PM 8/24/99 -0400, you wrote: >At 03:22 PM 8/24/99 -0600, you wrote: >> Labsafetynet.com >> >>I concur...makes sense and would be a fast-track hit for those doing a >>search for information on laboratory safety. > >Yes, it shows promise...especially after the NACHO precident...and, of >course, LABSAFETY-L Personally, I'd prefer that LSW not change its name at all. Good name recognition, descriptive, already a presence in cyberspace - seems it may be confusing to change the name at this point. And it's expensive to change a name, expense that a non-profit could perhaps put to other uses. Does the name prevent the organization from growing? Does the name impede the mission and message of the organization? Is the name completely inaccurate? Changing the name of an organization can be perilous - proceed cautiously . Regards, Deb. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:27:27 +0000 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Gene Shematek Organization: @Home Network Subject: Re: New Name Contest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd suggest: Laboratory Safety Associates or Laboratory Safety Services or Laboratory Safety Training Institute I guess I'd need to know more of what it actually is - private company, association; Are services planned to be dedicated to training or teaching, or will they be expanded to look at quality improvement programs, benchmarking, or research activities? Labsafe@AOL.COM wrote: > > Hi NACHOs, > > The Laboratory Safety Workshop is considering changing its name. So we're > going to have a contest to solicit suggestions. The winner or winners (if > more than one person submit the name that's selected) will receive or share > LSW's two-day video short course (list price $795.00). > > Our name grew out of our first activity ... conducting laboratory safety > workshops for secondary science teachers. The name change is the first step > in giving all or our materials a more contemporary and focused look. > > Thanks for your help and suggestions. Want more information? Ask. ... jim > > ***************************************************** > James A. Kaufman, Director > The Laboratory Safety Workshop > Safety in Science Education > 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 > 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 labsafe@aol.com > http://www.labsafety.org/ > > LSW is a national non-profit educational organization dedicated to making > health and safety an integral and important part of science education. Free > copies of our Laboratory Safety Guidelines, seminar schedule, Publications > List, AV-Lending Library List, and membership information are available on > request. The LABSAFETY-L discussion list is a public service of LSW. > > ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:48:26 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Mueller, Jeff" Subject: Position Available: EH&S Technician Comments: cc: "Baros, Susan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Position Available: EH&S Technician Amgen, the world's largest independent biotechnology company has a position for an EH&S Technician in its Thousand Oaks office. This position will support Environmental Health & Safety programs and activities with specific emphasis in the radiation safety and biosafety programs. Job responsibilities will include the following: Performing radioactive package receipt surveys, monthly surveys for radioactive contamination in laboratories, contamination surveys of equipment and facilities for release to unrestricted use as necessary, radioactive waste activities, and biohazardous waste activities. Serves as a member of the Amgen Spill Response Team. The successful candidate will have an Associate's degree in Environmental Health, Occupational Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Health Physics or related field and four years of related safety experience as an EH&S technician; experience as a radiation safety technician is preferred. A Bachelor's degree may be substituted for two years of the required experience. The candidate must have good verbal and written communications skills as well as problem solving skills. General knowledge and experience using computer applications (FileMaker Pro, MS Word, Excel) is required. Data entry is compliance driven, so accuracy is critical. The individual must possess a valid CA drivers license and must be able to wear a personal respirator. The candidate must be able to lift 25 - 50 lbs. 24-hour Hazardous Waste Technician Certification is preferred. The ability to operate a forklift is preferred. Please send resume with salary requirements to: Susan Baros, M/S 10-2-A, Amgen, Inc., One Amgen Center Drive, Thousand Oaks, CA 91320-1799. email: sstevens@amgen.com FAX: (805)498-8887 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- Thanks, Jeff ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Jeff Mueller, PE, CHP Manager, Laboratory Safety AMGEN, INC. One Amgen Center Drive, 10-2-A Thousand Oaks, CA 91320-1799 USA 805/447-1992 (Voice) 805/498-8887 (Fax) 805/359-5493 (Pager) jmueller@amgen.com ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:14:22 -0300 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Aziz M. Abu-khalaf" Subject: New name Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Debbie wrote: << Personally, I'd prefer that LSW not change its name at all. Good name recognition, descriptive, already a presence in cyberspace - seems it may be confusing to change the name at this point.>> This is not a good idea. "Workshop" is not an accurate description of LSW work. Changing the name can be helpful and can affect the whole situation in different aspects. Usually, real changes are created by changing the names of people (when there is a real need for change). Laboratory safety should remain because this is the heart of the LSW work. **************************************************************************** ******* Aziz M. Abu-Khalaf ***** Tel: 00966 1 4676894 Chemical Engineering Department ***** Fax: 00966 1 4678770 King Saud University ***** E-mail: amkhalaf@ksu.edu.sa PO Box 800 ***** Riyadh 11421, Saudi Arabia ***** **************************************************************************** ******* ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:32:10 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Barbara J. Weaver" Subject: Re: New Name Contest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Will the Lab Safety-L still be house at SIU.EDU or must it have its own page? "Should it be ".org"? I like those titles that indicate this is a Lab Safety Net, which sounds better that Lab Safety Chat. > -----Original Message----- > From: Greene, Ben [SMTP:bgreene@SMTP3.WSTF.NASA.GOV] > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 3:41 PM > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: Re: New Name Contest > > I hope the name doesn't get too far away from the lab; Laboratory Safety > Net? > > Ben Greene > AlliedSignal ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:43:04 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Princiotto, Laurie A" Subject: Reference Book Comments: To: "safety@uvm.uvm.edu" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Safety Gurus, During one of my safety training sessions an organic chemist asked me if I knew of any book that contained specific safety information about different organic lab procedures including purification methods, hydrogenations, oxidation reactions, etc. He was looking for a book that gave specific safety information about each step and mixture in a procedure. The first book that came to mind was Perrin's book entitled "Purification of Laboratory Chemicals," but the chemist said that this was not specific enough. Can anyone direct me to another book that might contain this type of information? Thanks for your help. Laurie Princiotto Laboratory Safety Specialist Phone: (812) 855-6115 Indiana University Fax: (812) 855-7906 Dept. of Environmental Health and Safety lprincio@indiana.edu Creative Arts Building http://www.ehs.indiana.edu 2735 East Tenth Street, Room 160 Bloomington, IN 47408-2602 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:21:29 -0500 Reply-To: khmorgan@UDel.Edu Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Kelly Morgan Organization: University of Delaware Subject: Re: New Name Contest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The International Institute of Laboratory Safety "Frank l. Switzer" wrote: > > At 03:22 PM 8/24/99 -0600, you wrote: > > Labsafetynet.com > > > >I concur...makes sense and would be a fast-track hit for those doing a > >search for information on laboratory safety. > > Yes, it shows promise...especially after the NACHO precident...and, of > course, LABSAFETY-L > > Frank Switzer > > =============================================== > Frank L. Switzer, Ph.D. > Associate Professor of Chemistry, Coker College > 300 East College Ave. Hartsville, SC 29550 > Phone: (843)383-8090 Fax:(843)383-8048 > e-mail: fswitzer@pascal.coker.edu > http://www.coker.edu/chemistry > =============================================== ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:56:04 -0600 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Greene, Ben" Subject: Re: Reference Book MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Try Fieser. Ben Greene AlliedSignal > ---------- > From: Princiotto, Laurie A[SMTP:lprincio@INDIANA.EDU] > Reply To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 7:43 AM > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: Reference Book > > Safety Gurus, > > During one of my safety training sessions an organic chemist asked me if I > knew of any book that contained specific safety information about > different > organic lab procedures including purification methods, hydrogenations, > oxidation reactions, etc. He was looking for a book that gave specific > safety information about each step and mixture in a procedure. The first > book that came to mind was Perrin's book entitled "Purification of > Laboratory Chemicals," but the chemist said that this was not specific > enough. Can anyone direct me to another book that might contain this type > of information? > > Thanks for your help. > > Laurie Princiotto > Laboratory Safety Specialist Phone: (812) > 855-6115 > Indiana University Fax: (812) > 855-7906 > Dept. of Environmental Health and Safety > lprincio@indiana.edu > Creative Arts Building http://www.ehs.indiana.edu > 2735 East Tenth Street, Room 160 > Bloomington, IN 47408-2602 > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:00:24 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Tim Sheehan Subject: Re: New Name Contest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How about "The Noname Institute (or Group or Collection)", or "Lots of Emails About Names Institute" or "Lots of Deleted Emails Compendium " or "Chemical Hygiene Officers Naming Group" ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:29:40 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Bob Byington Organization: The University of Memphis Subject: New Name MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about Laboratory Safety Connection? It's simple, to the point and really pushes the thought of connecting, communication and networking all into one tight little package. -- Bob Byington Laboratory Safety Specialist,WebMaster Environmental Health and Safety 210B Old Brister Library The University of Memphis Memphis, TN 38152-6191 (901) 678-4672 fax (901) 678-4673 rbyingtn@memphis.edu homepage: http://www.people.memphis.edu/~ehas personal: http://www.people.memphis.edu/~rbyingtn ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:09:44 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: New Name Contest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-08-24 12:47:13 EDT, you write: << Regarding the "institute"... Wasn't it Groucho Marx who said, "Marriage is a great institution, but who wants to be in an institution?" >> Hi NACHOs, Thanks for all the great suggestions. Eventually I'll repost the summary. In the meantime, I'll probably be ready for one (institution) by the time this is over. Regards ... Jim ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:50:57 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "John M. Neil" Subject: CAS numbers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a question concerning CAS numbers: do polymorphs (same composition but different structures) have the same CAS number? When this question came up, I realized that I haven't the foggiest idea of how they are assigned. I assume there is some method to the madness. Does anyone have an overview of the process and format? Thanks John M. Neil Thermochemistry Facility Department of Chemical Engineering & Material Science University of California at Davis One Shields Avenue Davis, CA 95616-8779 phone: (530) 754-2130 Fax: (530) 752-9307 "Entropy isn't what it use to be." ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:56:03 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Robert Burns Subject: Re: CAS numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The CAS system is not a simple as it might be. There are multiple numbers for the same compound and multiple names for the same number. they are assigned as they are used in papers the chemical Abstracts Service abstracts. So if I call a material one thing and you another in a different paper, it might well have two numbers. and then there are the mixtures- some which have a number, some not. if a formulated product is referenced in a paper, you have a number for a formulation, which of course is a mixture. the answer to your specific question is "maybe". the CAS help desk number is 800 848 6533. they are very helpful. Hope this helps! -----Original Message----- From: John M. Neil [mailto:jmneil@UCDAVIS.EDU] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 12:51 To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Subject: CAS numbers I have a question concerning CAS numbers: do polymorphs (same composition but different structures) have the same CAS number? When this question came up, I realized that I haven't the foggiest idea of how they are assigned. I assume there is some method to the madness. Does anyone have an overview of the process and format? Thanks John M. Neil Thermochemistry Facility Department of Chemical Engineering & Material Science University of California at Davis One Shields Avenue Davis, CA 95616-8779 phone: (530) 754-2130 Fax: (530) 752-9307 "Entropy isn't what it use to be." ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:50:40 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Rebecca Levins, RSR Corporation" Subject: Re: CAS numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BEEFC9.FFDB9C40" ------ =_NextPart_000_01BEEFC9.FFDB9C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "There are multiple numbers for the same compound" Augh! You have crumbled my world. ;) Rebecca Levins Environmental, Health & Safety Compliance Specialist RSR Corporation Dallas, Texas RSRrdl@onramp.net (214) 583-0245 -----Original Message----- From: Robert Burns [SMTP:RBURNS@RUETGERS-ORGANICS-CORP.COM] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:56 AM To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Subject: Re: CAS numbers The CAS system is not a simple as it might be. There are multiple numbers for the same compound and multiple names for the same number. they are assigned as they are used in papers the chemical Abstracts Service abstracts. So if I call a material one thing and you another in a different paper, it might well have two numbers. and then there are the mixtures- some which have a number, some not. if a formulated product is referenced in a paper, you have a number for a formulation, which of course is a mixture. the answer to your specific question is "maybe". the CAS help desk number is 800 848 6533. they are very helpful. Hope this helps! -----Original Message----- From: John M. Neil [mailto:jmneil@UCDAVIS.EDU] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 12:51 To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Subject: CAS numbers I have a question concerning CAS numbers: do polymorphs (same composition but different structures) have the same CAS number? When this question came up, I realized that I haven't the foggiest idea of how they are assigned. I assume there is some method to the madness. Does anyone have an overview of the process and format? Thanks John M. Neil Thermochemistry Facility Department of Chemical Engineering & Material Science University of California at Davis One Shields Avenue Davis, CA 95616-8779 phone: (530) 754-2130 Fax: (530) 752-9307 "Entropy isn't what it use to be." ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:18:27 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: New Name Contest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-08-24 19:36:41 EDT, you write: << I guess I'd need to know more of what it actually is - private company, association; Are services planned to be dedicated to training or teaching, or will they be expanded to look at quality improvement programs, benchmarking, or research activities? >> Hi NACHOs, LSW is a not-for-profit (501C3) educational organization dedicated to making health and safety an integral and important part of science education. The current range of services and activities are outlined at the web site. ... Jim ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:18:26 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: New Name Contest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-08-25 07:37:04 EDT, you write: << Will the Lab Safety-L still be house at SIU.EDU or must it have its own page? "Should it be ".org"? I like those titles that indicate this is a Lab Safety Net, which sounds better that Lab Safety Chat. >> Hi NACHOs, The consideration of a name change for LSW was not intended to affect NACHO or the Labsafety-L discussion list. ... jim ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:47:55 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: LSW Newsletter Comments: To: Safety , nsela-l@science.coe.uwf.edu, NAOSMM@listserv.rice.edu, hs-canada@ccohs.ca, dchas-l@siu.edu, biosafty@mitvma.mit.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi NACHOs, NAOSMMs, DCHASs,, NSELAs, and SAFETYs, The Lab Safety Workshop is looking for a volunteer to serve as managing editor for our newsletter, Speaking of Safety. We currently publish three, 16-page issues per year. The managing editors responsibilities could include gathering materials for the issues, writing copy, and desktop publishing to produce a camera ready original for printing. For more information, please contact me here or by phone. ... Jim ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 labsafe@aol.com http://www.labsafety.org/ LSW is a national non-profit educational organization dedicated to making health and safety an integral and important part of science education. Free copies of our Laboratory Safety Guidelines, seminar schedule, Publications List, AV-Lending Library List, and membership information are available on request. The LABSAFETY-L discussion list is a public service of LSW. ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:00:45 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Walters.Douglas" Subject: Re: CAS numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Just to verify what Bobbie Burns said and to give a few examples: boron oxide has 2 CAS numbers, so does ethyl tellurac, sodium arsenate has 3, boric acid has many, because it is very specie specific. Doug Douglas B. Walters, Ph.D., CSP, CCHO Head, Laboratory Health and Safety National Toxicology Program National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences PO Box 12233 Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 919.541.3355 (voice) 919.541.3687 (FAX) walters@niehs.nih.gov > ---------- > From: rsrrdl@onramp.net on behalf of Rebecca Levins, RSR > Corporation > Reply To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:50 PM > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: RE: CAS numbers > > "There are multiple numbers for the same compound" > > Augh! You have crumbled my world. > > ;) > > Rebecca Levins > Environmental, Health & Safety Compliance Specialist > RSR Corporation > Dallas, Texas > RSRrdl@onramp.net > (214) 583-0245 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Burns [SMTP:RBURNS@RUETGERS-ORGANICS-CORP.COM] > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:56 AM > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: Re: CAS numbers > > The CAS system is not a simple as it might be. There are multiple numbers > for the same compound and multiple names for the same number. they are > assigned as they are used in papers the chemical Abstracts Service > abstracts. So if I call a material one thing and you another in a > different > paper, it might well have two numbers. and then there are the mixtures- > some which have a number, some not. if a formulated product is referenced > in a paper, you have a number for a formulation, which of course is a > mixture. > > the answer to your specific question is "maybe". > > the CAS help desk number is 800 848 6533. they are very helpful. > > Hope this helps! > > -----Original Message----- > From: John M. Neil [mailto:jmneil@UCDAVIS.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 12:51 > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: CAS numbers > > > I have a question concerning CAS numbers: do polymorphs (same > composition > but different structures) have the same CAS number? When this question > came up, I realized that I haven't the foggiest idea of how they are > assigned. I assume there is some method to the madness. Does anyone have > an overview of the process and format? > > Thanks > John M. Neil > > Thermochemistry Facility > Department of Chemical Engineering & Material Science > University of California at Davis > One Shields Avenue > Davis, CA 95616-8779 > > phone: (530) 754-2130 Fax: (530) 752-9307 > > "Entropy isn't what it use to be." > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:22:44 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "John M. Neil" Subject: CAS numbers II Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To follow up on my question yesterday concerning CAS numbers, here is a summary of what I found. The help desk from CAS returned my call; a search on FeO(OH) had just one CAS number. This was for the alpha form, and the other three (beta, gamma, and delta) weren't listed. They are referenced in the Merk Index (which doesn't list CAS #'s). All four forms are also recongized mineral species and there are CAS numbers for the minerals. I was told the rational is that the four forms are the same on a molecular basis (Fe double bond oxygen and single bond hydroxide) so one number fits all. The polymorphs have structural differences in the packing arrangement of the oxygen atoms. My library has a list of common names and the CAS numbers. It fills about 60 microfich (sp?) units. The librarian said that she has seen were CAS has rescinded CAS numbers when they discovered they were multiples for the same compound. I don't know how widely distributed the recall notice is, however. One would hope that this most occurs with obscure compounds that few people work with. For what's worth John M. Neil Thermochemistry Facility Department of Chemical Engineering & Material Science University of California at Davis One Shields Avenue Davis, CA 95616-8779 phone: (530) 754-2130 Fax: (530) 752-9307 "Entropy isn't what it use to be." ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:55:11 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Justin Bezner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am looking for some information and on an institution that has: 1. A chemical redistribution program (rather than sending unused chemicals out as waste they are redistributed to labs that can use them). 2. Centralized management of chemicals where all ordering of chemicals goes through the safety office. 3. A tracking system for chemicals once they have entered the institution. The type of information I am looking for is how these programs have been implemented, their effectiveness, and how much maintenance is required to keep the programs running. The statistics I am looking for are cost reduction or avoidance, waste reduction, and storage reduction. All help concerning this matter is greatly appreciated. Thank you, Justin Bezner Safety Specialist M.D. Anderson Cancer Center ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:37:01 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Chemical Redistribution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi NACHOs, In 1988, Sharon Harless reported that the University of Iowa was saving about $80,000 per year with a chemical redistribution probram. ... Jim Justin wrote: << I am looking for some information and on an institution that has: 1. A chemical redistribution program (rather than sending unused chemicals out as waste they are redistributed to labs that can use them). >> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 07:21:09 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: LSW Tests New Services Policy Comments: To: NSELA-L@science.coe.uwf.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NSELA and NACHO Members, In the past, LSWs seminars and short courses have only been available to national, regional, and state-wide organizations. LSW did not provide these to individual schools, school districts, colleges, and universities. At the June meeting of the LSW Board of Directors, the Board decided to test offering these training services to LSW member institutions. In addition to training programs, facilities audits, and assistance with regulatory compliance and safety program development will be made available during the June - December test period. The policy change will be reviewed at the December Board Meeting. For more information about these services, please contact Jim Kaufman. ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 labsafe@aol.com http://www.labsafety.org/ LSW is a national non-profit educational organization dedicated to making health and safety an integral and important part of science education. Free copies of our Laboratory Safety Guidelines, seminar schedule, Publications List, AV-Lending Library List, and membership information are available on request. The LABSAFETY-L discussion list is a public service of LSW. ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:55:31 -0600 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Carolyn S. Jaussi" Subject: Re: CAS numbers II In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990827082244.00922100@blue.ucdavis.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > The help desk from CAS returned my call; a search on FeO(OH) had just one >CAS number. This was for the alpha form, and the other three (beta, gamma, >and delta) weren't listed. They are referenced in the Merk Index (which >doesn't list CAS #'s). Mine does. At the back of the 3 or 4 most recent editions, there is a Chemical Abstracts Service Registry Numbers index. You have to hunt a bit in the older editions but the 12th is clearly marked. *************************************************************** Carolyn S. Jaussi Biologist, CHO USDA ARS FRRL Utah State University 700 N 1100 E Logan UT 84322-6300 Phone: (435)-797-3222 FAX: (435)-797-3075 Email: csjaussi@cc.usu.edu *************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:34:22 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Gonzalez, Lisa" Subject: California regs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi. I have a question for the California safety people ... Is there a requirement stating that you cannot have desks in the laboratory. If so, can you point me to the regulation/requirement or in the vicinity of it? Or let me know if it specifies the type of lab. I greatly appreciate your help! Lisa A. Gonzalez, NRCC-CHO R&D Safety and Health Officer lisa.gonzalez@pharma.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:38:47 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "David C. Finster" Subject: Sign-off sheet for students Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_618434652==_.ALT" --=====================_618434652==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Could a few of you post some examples of "sign-off sheets" that you have students submit at the beginning of academic labs that hold them "accountable" for having read safety rules, etc? I assume that these would not be legally binding, but it at least gives the appearance of accountability and demonstrates good faith effort on the part of the institution. Thanks. ******************************* David C. Finster Professor and Chair Department of Chemistry University Chemical Hygiene Officer Wittenberg University --=====================_618434652==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Could a few of you post some examples of "sign-off sheets" that you have students submit at the beginning of academic labs that hold them "accountable" for having read safety rules, etc?  I assume that these would not be legally binding, but it at least gives the appearance of accountability and demonstrates good faith effort on the part of the institution.

Thanks.


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David C. Finster
Professor and Chair
Department of Chemistry
University Chemical Hygiene Officer
Wittenberg University

 --=====================_618434652==_.ALT-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:35:56 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Mudd, Lisa E'town Ind Schools" Subject: Re: Sign-off sheet for students I use the safety contract from Flinn Scientific. It is very thorough and has a place for the student and parent signatures. We also attach a cover letter from the principal stating the consequences of misbehavior. If you want a copy of this letter let me know. > ---------- > From: David C. Finster[SMTP:dfinster@WITTENBERG.EDU] > Reply To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List > Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 2:38 PM > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: Sign-off sheet for students > > Could a few of you post some examples of "sign-off sheets" that you have > students submit at the beginning of academic labs that hold them > "accountable" for having read safety rules, etc? I assume that these > would not be legally binding, but it at least gives the appearance of > accountability and demonstrates good faith effort on the part of the > institution. > > Thanks. > > > ******************************* > David C. Finster > Professor and Chair > Department of Chemistry > University Chemical Hygiene Officer > Wittenberg University > > > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:14:52 +0000 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Barb Moore Subject: Re: Sign-off sheet for students In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990830143539.00a95370@mail.wittenberg.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="============_-1276096402==_============" --============_-1276096402==_============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" See Attachment ---------- Barbara Moore 330-263-2379 Administrative Manager FAX 330-263-2378 Biology Dept bmoore@acs.wooster.edu College of Wooster http://ACS.wooster.edu/biology Wooster, OH 44691 --============_-1276096402==_============-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:20:54 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Janeen LaPierre Subject: Re: Sign-off sheet for students Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ** High Priority ** We have a couple different forms we use with students. I am reluctant to attach them as this can cause problems for some of our members. I will be happy to e-mail folks directly who are interested in what I have come up with. I could also fax them to those of you who have problems with attachments. For what its worth, Janeen. :):):):):):):):):):):):) Janeen Lapierre, CHO College of Osteopathic Medicine University of New England 11 Hills Beach Road Biddeford, ME 04005 E-Mail: JLaPierre@MAILBOX.UNE.EDU Phone: (207) 283-0170 ext 2446 Opinions are mine and not those of UNE. >>> "David C. Finster" - 8/30/99 2:38 PM >>> Could a few of you post some examples of "sign-off sheets" that you have students submit at the beginning of academic labs that hold them "accountable" for having read safety rules, etc? I assume that these would not be legally binding, but it at least gives the appearance of accountability and demonstrates good faith effort on the part of the institution. Thanks. ******************************* David C. Finster Professor and Chair Department of Chemistry University Chemical Hygiene Officer Wittenberg University ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:28:40 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Gonzalez, Lisa" Subject: California Regulations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have been asked to show management a regulation that states "no desks allowed in the laboratories." I have told them this is not a regulation I have heard of in New York or New Jersey. They are interested in California.... Can those of you in CA help me with this, I realize that minimizing exposure could be an issue; however in this situation there is no concern. Thanks in advance for your assistance Lisa A. Gonzalez, NRCC-CHO R&D Safety and Health Officer lisa.gonzalez@pharma.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:08:12 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Sign-off sheet for students MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/30/99 2:39:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dfinster@WITTENBERG.EDU writes: << Could a few of you post some examples of "sign-off sheets" that you have students submit at the beginning of academic labs that hold them "accountable" for having read safety rules, etc? I assume that these would not be legally binding, but it at least gives the appearance of accountability and demonstrates good faith effort on the part of the institution. >> Hi NACHOs, A few samples might be a good item for us to include on the web site. ... Jim ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:05:56 -0500 Reply-To: swihart@purdue.edu Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: L A Swihart Organization: Purdue University Subject: Re: California Regulations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While you're at it Lisa, show them the regulation that explicitly says they're not allowed to drink DI water out of a beaker while sitting naked in a fume hood roasting a hotdog stuck on a spatula over a bunsen burner. I wish I had the time to write up this regulation, make it look very formal and official, with only some fine print disclaimer at the bottom. But I don't. Management will eventually understand, we hope, that there are many stupid-employee/employer-tricks for which there are NOT regulations, but that this does not mean that employers in their right minds would permit those activities to take place. I'm making some headway here by answering the occasional "show me the reg" business (when there isn't) with "Hey, you hired me to be your safety professional and you have some reasons to believe I'm good at it. *I* say we should have this policy in this or that area, and if you don't want to do it I will simply document that you disagreed with me and I'll check back in a year to see if you've had a change of heart." They almost always see it my way when it comes down to that. Do we want laws passed against every specific unsafe behavior by name? I don't. (Although about the only chance of preventing its eventually happening is by continued hammering and changing of attitudes.) Maybe California does have a regulation prohibiting desks in laboratories, but man I hope not. $.02 Linda Purdue Go Purdue, Beat Notre Dame! Gonzalez, Lisa wrote: > > I have been asked to show management a regulation that states "no desks > allowed in the laboratories." I have told them this is not a regulation I > have heard of in New York or New Jersey. They are interested in > California.... Can those of you in CA help me with this, I realize that > minimizing exposure could be an issue; however in this situation there is no > concern. > > Thanks in advance for your assistance ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:12:54 -0500 Reply-To: swihart@purdue.edu Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: L A Swihart Organization: Purdue University Subject: Re: Sign-off sheet for students MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Janeen - Attach them to me personally, swihart@purdue.edu, and I'll put them at the LSW web site. I'm working on the one we give our Gen Chem students and it'll be there after tonight I hope. Any/all samples included will be with permission only and will be rendered anonymous and disclaimed appropriately. Linda Janeen LaPierre wrote: > > ** High Priority ** > > We have a couple different forms we use with students. I am reluctant to attach them as this can cause problems for some of our members. I will be happy to e-mail folks directly who are interested in what I have come up with. I could also fax them to those of you who have problems with attachments. For what its worth, Janeen. > > :):):):):):):):):):):):) > Janeen Lapierre, CHO > College of Osteopathic Medicine > University of New England > 11 Hills Beach Road > Biddeford, ME 04005 > > E-Mail: JLaPierre@MAILBOX.UNE.EDU > Phone: (207) 283-0170 ext 2446 > Opinions are mine and not those of UNE. > > >>> "David C. Finster" - 8/30/99 2:38 PM >>> > > Could a few of you post some examples of "sign-off sheets" that you have > students submit at the beginning of academic labs that hold them "accountable" > for having read safety rules, etc? I assume that these would not be legally > binding, but it at least gives the appearance of accountability and > demonstrates good faith effort on the part of the institution. > > Thanks. > > ******************************* > David C. Finster > Professor and Chair > Department of Chemistry > University Chemical Hygiene Officer > Wittenberg University ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:57:00 -0600 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: h & jg stormking Subject: New Virus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All: Got this information. I don't think it's a hoax as it came from a reliable source. For what it's worth. Helen Subject: new virus > > > JUST AN FYI FOR ALL OF YOU: > > We have been informed of a new virus - WOBBLER. It will arrive on > e-mail titled CALIFORNIA. IBM and AOL have announced that it is very > powerful, more so than Melissa. There is no remedy. It will eat all your > information on the hard drive and also destroys Netscape Navigator and Microsoft > Internet Explorer. Do not open anything with this title and please > pass this message on to all your contacts and anyone who uses your e-mail > facility. Not many people seem to know about this yet so please pass > this warning on to anyone you know. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:40:13 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Jeff Rubin Subject: Re: New Virus In-Reply-To: <37CB285B.42E862E7@pcisys.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It's a hoax, as is virtually every "warning" with that type of wording. Check out the Symantec hoax site, for example: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html. The LSW page has several hoax-index sites. JNR >Hi All: Got this information. I don't think it's a hoax as it came >from a reliable source. >For what it's worth. > >Helen > >Subject: new virus >> >> >> JUST AN FYI FOR ALL OF YOU: >> >> We have been informed of a new virus - WOBBLER. It will arrive on >> e-mail titled CALIFORNIA. IBM and AOL have announced that it is very >> powerful, more so than Melissa. There is no remedy. It will eat all >your >> information on the hard drive and also destroys Netscape Navigator and >Microsoft >> Internet Explorer. Do not open anything with this title and please >> pass this message on to all your contacts and anyone who uses your >e-mail >> facility. Not many people seem to know about this yet so please pass >> this warning on to anyone you know. Jeff Rubin, Asst. Dean for EHS College of Natural Sciences G2500 W.C. Hogg Building University of Texas at Austin Austin, TX 78712-1199 (512) 471-6176 (O) (512) 471-4998 (F) jrubin@mail.utexas.edu http://www.utexas.edu/cons/safety/ "The opinions of Dr. Rubin are not meant to offend anyone unless otherwise specified." ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:53:43 -0600 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: h & jg stormking Subject: Re: New Virus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I apologize for putting out false information. I will check out the site provided in the future before sending any virus warning. Thank you Helen ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:45:32 +0100 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Armen Casparian Subject: Student Sign-Off Sheet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear NACHOS, Chemical Education Resources puts out two such laboratory safety modules--Tech 190 and Tech 430. The latter includes both a safety quiz and a safety agreement to be signed by the student. I have found this approach reasonably effective (so far) at Wentworth. They are in Palmyra, PA, and their tel. # is: (717) 838-3165. Armen ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:59:56 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Teresa Robertson Subject: Explosion at Bakersfield High School Comments: cc: trobertson@csubak.edu, cohoexp@lightspeed.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just came across our campus e-mail... There has been an explosion in the Science Lab at East Bakersfield High School this morning, with 12 injured, two of whom were taken by ambulance to the hospital. Mac Wimbish, with the California Highway Patrol, who does the morning traffic updates on many of the local radio stations, broke into local programming a few minutes ago to say that traffic and streets all around East High are blocked off in a wide area due to the explosion. Minutes later, he came back on to say that it is chaotic due to the number of law enforcement, fire trucks and ambulance vehicles. He understands there was a five-gallon bottle of methane in the lab, which may have contributed. Teresa Robertson NRCC-CHO CSUB ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:36:07 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Debbie Decker Subject: Re: Explosion at Bakersfield High School In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:59 AM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote: >Just came across our campus e-mail... > > >There has been an explosion in the Science Lab at East Bakersfield High >School this morning, with 12 injured, two of whom were taken by ambulance >to the hospital. Please keep us posted, Teresa, as you find out more information. Deb. Debbie M. Decker, Health and Safety Specialist Environmental Health and Safety University of California, Davis 1 Shields Ave. Davis, CA 95616 (530)754-7964 (530)752-1493 dmdecker@ucdavis.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:52:43 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Teresa Robertson Subject: Re(2): Explosion at Bakersfield High School Comments: To: dmdecker@UCDAVIS.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit dmdecker@UCDAVIS.EDU writes: >>There has been an explosion in the Science Lab at East Bakersfield High >>School this morning, with 12 injured, two of whom were taken by ambulance >>to the hospital. > >Please keep us posted, Teresa, as you find out more information. > >Deb. This hits very, very close to home for me. When I graduated from junior high school, half the kids went to East High. I have a son who is a senior in high school this year, but at another Bakersfield campus. We have televisions in our chem labs for safety films, etc...I've just found we can't get outside channels....I can't tune in to the local radio news channel because the radio in my office doesn't pick up AM...local radio news is 12:30 pm..... To access the local newspaper tomorrow... www.Bakersfield.com Later, Teresa ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:11:52 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Nick Spare Subject: Re: Explosion at Bakersfield High School MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 16 teens have been hospitalized in Bakersfield after a beaker containing 2ml of methanol exploded, showering high school chemistry students with glass shards. Taken from kfwb.com (LA news station). Nick Spare Pilot Chemical -----Original Message----- From: Teresa Robertson To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 10:03 AM Subject: Explosion at Bakersfield High School >Just came across our campus e-mail... > > >There has been an explosion in the Science Lab at East Bakersfield High >School this morning, with 12 injured, two of whom were taken by ambulance >to the hospital. Mac Wimbish, with the California Highway Patrol, who >does the morning traffic updates on many of the local radio stations, >broke into local programming a few minutes ago to say that traffic and >streets all around East High are blocked off in a wide area due to the >explosion. Minutes later, he came back on to say that it is chaotic due >to the number of law enforcement, fire trucks and ambulance vehicles. He >understands there was a five-gallon bottle of methane in the lab, which >may have contributed. > > >Teresa Robertson >NRCC-CHO >CSUB ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:33:14 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Teresa Robertson Subject: Re(2): Explosion at Bakersfield High School Comments: To: NJSpare@PILOTCHEMICAL.COM Comments: cc: trobertson@csubak.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NJSpare@PILOTCHEMICAL.COM writes: >16 teens have been hospitalized in Bakersfield after a beaker containing >2ml >of methanol exploded, showering high school chemistry students with glass >shards. > >Taken from kfwb.com (LA news station). > >Nick Spare >Pilot Chemical still hearing second-hand via "announcements" from someone on campus with a radio.... Latest word on the radio is that there were 31 students in the Science Lab plus the instructor when the explosion occurred, of which 23 students and the instructor were injured and all 24 were taken to area hospitals. They said the students sat stunned at first, immediately after the explosion, wondering if this was what the instructor had intended, but, when they saw injuries and blood, they knew something had gone awry. Most of the injuries, apparently, were cuts (hopefully no one's face or eyes). They also stated that Hall Ambulance would remain on the scene for another couple of hours, for those remaining 8 students from the class, in case they have any delayed symptoms, no doubt. Traffic and roadblocks have now been cleared. Teresa Robertson CSUB ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:40:22 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Teresa Robertson Subject: Re(3): Explosion at Bakersfield High School Comments: cc: NJSpare@PILOTCHEMICAL.COM, trobertson@csubak.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 12:30 pm news broadcast... The explosion was accidental and occurred in a chemistry class. The experiment involved methanol vapor. The Fire Battalion Chief said 2 ml of methanol was placed in a "Sparkletts-water-bottle-sized container". Students received minor cuts to arms, legs, and faces. Teresa Robertson CSUB I'm wondering...what is a minor cut, and what size the container was... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:38:28 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Ray Campbell Subject: Re(3): Explosion at Bakersfield High School In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" And where they got such powerful Methanol. 2 ml?? At 12:40 PM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote: >12:30 pm news broadcast... > >The explosion was accidental and occurred in a chemistry class. The >experiment involved methanol vapor. The Fire Battalion Chief said 2 ml of >methanol was placed in a "Sparkletts-water-bottle-sized container". > >Students received minor cuts to arms, legs, and faces. > > > >Teresa Robertson >CSUB >I'm wondering...what is a minor cut, and what size the container was... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:58:56 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Jim Jenkins Subject: Re: Re(2): Explosion at Bakersfield High School Comments: To: Teresa_Robertson@FIRSTCLASS1.CSUBAK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A question that hasn't been asked yet --- Why were there apparently 31 students in the lab? What is the maximum safe capacity of the facility? Jim Jenkins Chairman, Science Department John F. Hodge High School St. James, MO jjenkins@stjames.k12.mo.us ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:18:12 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Herbert Carpenter Subject: Re: Re(3): Explosion at Bakersfield High School I just did a rough calculation on the back of a note card and I think 2 ml of Methanol would make a fine air-fuel bomb when vaporized in a 1 liter container. You just have to create the conditions to get the 6-13% mix. In a 1 liter container, 1 ml completely vaporized or aerosolized would bring you to just about LEL and 2 ml would get you to UEL. Herb Carpenter US Army Crime Lab > ---------- > From: Ray Campbell[SMTP:ray.campbell@VARIANINC.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 3:38 PM > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: Re(3): Explosion at Bakersfield High School > > And where they got such powerful Methanol. 2 ml?? > > At 12:40 PM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote: > >12:30 pm news broadcast... > > > >The explosion was accidental and occurred in a chemistry class. The > >experiment involved methanol vapor. The Fire Battalion Chief said 2 ml > of > >methanol was placed in a "Sparkletts-water-bottle-sized container". > > > >Students received minor cuts to arms, legs, and faces. > > > > > > > >Teresa Robertson > >CSUB > >I'm wondering...what is a minor cut, and what size the container was... > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:32:33 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Janeen LaPierre Subject: Re: Re(2): Explosion at Bakersfield High School Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Good question Jim! This is reoccurring theme in eduction. Who's chain should we start yanking to get some hard and fast guidelines/regulations in place for this? In my case, local fire marshall was of no help. He rated labs at much higher occupancies based on square footage and number of means of egress, than I would ever have dreamed possible. Any ideas out there? For what its worth, Janeen. :):):):):):):):):):):):) Janeen Lapierre, CHO College of Osteopathic Medicine University of New England 11 Hills Beach Road Biddeford, ME 04005 E-Mail: JLaPierre@MAILBOX.UNE.EDU Phone: (207) 283-0170 ext 2446 Opinions are mine and not those of UNE. >>> Jim Jenkins - 8/31/99 3:58 PM >>> A question that hasn't been asked yet --- Why were there apparently 31 students in the lab? What is the maximum safe capacity of the facility? Jim Jenkins Chairman, Science Department John F. Hodge High School St. James, MO jjenkins@stjames.k12.mo.us ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:04:41 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Teresa Robertson Subject: Re(2): Re(2): Explosion at Bakersfield High School Comments: To: JLaPierre@MAILBOX.UNE.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >From bakersfield.com 5 pm, 8-31-99 Lab explosion at East High School sends 23 to hospital Filed: August 31, 1999 The Bakersfield Californian An explosion inside an East Bakersfield High School chemistry classroom Tuesday morning sent 22 students and their teacher to local hospitals for treatment of minor injuries, the Kern County Fire Department reported. The 8:35 a.m. explosion happened after the unidentified chemistry instructor poured a small amount of methanol into a large flask, Capt. Tomas Patlan said. "When the instructor poured the methanol into the bottle, he closed the lid, asked some students some question and then lifted the lid," Patlan said. "We believe a spark ignited the vapors." The resulting flash fire shattered the glass beaker, spraying glass around the room, Patlan said. "We believe it was static electricity that ignited it, probably from the instructor moving around," he said. All 34 students inside the classroom were examined in a triage area set up outside the class, and a female student and the teacher were immediately taken across the street to Kern Medical Center. The girl complained of a glass shard near the corner of her eye, and the teacher suffered cuts, Patlan said. Other students were treated for small cuts, and some complained of nausea and headaches, probably caused by the concussion of the explosion, Patlan said. After initial treatment at the scene, 21 other students were taken to local hospitals. "Some students complained of a headache, some complained of nausea," Patlan said. "As they did that we just went ahead and decided it was a good idea to be seen by a physician." The fire department and the Kern High School District are investigating the incident. Patlan said he didn't know what the teacher was trying to show with the experiment. Methanol is a highly volatile form of alcohol made from wood, and is used as a motor fuel, solvent and anti-freeze. "It's supposed to be an innocent experiment of some sort that they're trying to use," Patlan said. "We're going to look into that to see if that's something they shouldn't be trying to do." ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:55:33 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Re(3): Explosion at Bakersfield High School MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-08-31 15:46:42 EDT, you write: << And where they got such powerful Methanol. 2 ml?? >> Hi NACHOs, One gallon of gasoline (about 4000 ml) can take a 2000 pound car and five 150-200 pound passengers anywhere from 15 to 30 miles. Now, that engine is only about 20% efficient. So, if all the energy were used, that would be 75 to 150 miles. Now divide by 2000. So, two ml of gasoline is good for sending a 2000 pound car and five folks about 0.04 to 0.08 miles (200-400 feet). Of course, methanol liberates less energy on combustion. But, you get the idea. Bottom line... don't kid yourself about the damage that 2ml of fuel can do on a bad day.... ... jim ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 labsafe@aol.com http://www.labsafety.org/ LSW is a national non-profit educational organization dedicated to making health and safety an integral and important part of science education. Free copies of our Laboratory Safety Guidelines, seminar schedule, Publications List, AV-Lending Library List, and membership information are available on request. The LABSAFETY-L discussion list is a public service of LSW. ******************************************************